thanks for the answers, I’m saving the grid studies page for when I’ve can devote more time to it, I’m still only 6 months into learning Max.
it was a expanded, written version of this that I was looking for:
just showing all the cool things you can now do with serialosc.maxpat & max 7 that are wired in under the hood.
I remembered seeing the video but then never saw anything further documenting this, perhaps its all hiding in the .maxhelp files in Max 7. I’ll have a look tonight.