#81

okay so I Did This Thing. per @Starthief and @grey, here’s how it goes:

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Timerunner sends master clock all over the place (those are 1:3 headphone splitters I got on eBay ages ago for cheap mult’ing, mult’d to Links, etc), sine from Batumi to Marbles (in SR mode), to Stages (6-stage SR), to Telephone Game (3 stages + Sum, and has a clock thru for convenience). so it’s a 12 + 1 stage ASR.

Using internal envs and VCAs where possible for simplicity, Tides to LxD, Braids n Plaits triggered internal envs, Rings struck by change in v/oct. Braids has a little “meta” voice changing going on. I tried it with Plaits model switching too but that was Too Busy. Kick from Peaks. One stage also controls Jitter on Marbles for occasional you know jitter. Timerunner contributes additional rhythm trigs/gates.

here’s a lil ditty:

more in there:
https://dbr.ee/StAQ

this was a neat experiment as it got me somewhere with a patch design consideration as my jumping off point, regardless of whether or not it “works for me.” amazed I have three different ASRs and “if this was My Style” this is a fine place to start. interested to see how I pull this apart and back into something.

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#82

Check out this madness in the upcoming Hemisphere update for O&C:

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#83

That’s either going to be a lot of fun, or mind-boggling overkill :smiley:

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#84

Glad I picked up a uO_C recently. That looks wild!

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#85

found this gem. Intro to early sound devices by mr Harvestman Scott Jaeger
https://youtu.be/Y_LUVqw7lyM

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#86

Reviving this topic - while researching a Norns project I stumbled across these videos of Rob Hordijk talking about the rungler circuit:

and I’m kind of obsessed.

I’m particulary interested in the way that the rungler uses a shift register to control timing, as well as pitch - that’s a step beyond what I’ve done so far. I’m also trying to wrap my head around its stability - it doesn’t seem to me like the phase of the two oscillators would produce repeating patterns reliably, but I’m not great at analog circuits.

Does anyone here use a Benjolin/Blippoo box, or other rungler circuits (or a full Hordijk modular)? I’m curious to what extent you can get it to blend/integrate with a larger system, and whether it has been a fruitful source of inspiration, or more of a one-trick pony?

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#88

Whooa, thats impressive! I’ve been looking for an excuse to build a banana benjolin for my setup.

#90

I had the Metalbox one in my Frac rig for a while, around a decade ago (based on the CGS/Ken Stone PCB). I bought it mainly for cascading sequences with different VCOs, BUT even when running the pitch CV input through a quantizer first, the voltages it output were NOT 1v/oct and therefore the resulting sequences just sounded drunken, and so I sold it. :slight_smile:

http://www.elby-designs.com/webtek/cgs/cgs34/cgs34_asr.html

#91

whooo this is an old thread! one simple way to integrate a benjolin in a larger system is to use vco b pulse out as master clock for the rest of the rack!
i usually do this with makenoise tempi and then distribute division\multiplications.
this way not only the benjo is in time with the system, but,if you rungle vco B itself, you can have very chaotic global timing variations :slight_smile:

p.s.: hello @Gregg giona here :smiley:

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#92

Good morning.

I’m trying to build out a eurorack facsimile of a Benjolin using a Fancy Rung Divisions.

My understanding is that I would need two oscillators. One oscillator plugged into the CLOCK input of the R.D. and one oscillator plugged into the DATA input.

Both of these oscillators would run into a mixer then into a filter then out to hello world.

I guess my question is what do I plug the shift register OUTS into and what do I plug the rungler OUTS into?

I am a novice.

Thanks for considering.

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#93

In the schematic for the Rungler below, the CV output in the bottom right is the sum of the three shift register outs that are summed through a crude digital to analog converter. The Rungle CV is then sent to the FM inputs of both oscillators and the filter. So with your set-up you would use the Rungle output of the Rung Divisions into the FM inputs of your oscillators / filter to emulate the typical benjolin routing.

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(Schematic by Peter Edwards)

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#94

hey, it worked! Thanks for the tip.

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#95

I just picked up a DIY Benjolin clone I hadn’t seen before - Juggler by After Later Audio, very nice panel layout. I wasn’t sure how it fit into my rack, but really loving it as an audio source, CV source, and a “clock” for Marbles, just as @hyena suggested:

It feels like it is letting me open up a lot more negative space around Marbles’ melodic lines; very interested to see where this goes.

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#96

I’ve been thinking again about this patch the past few days and wondering how hard it would be to create something similar for Norns?

An LFO into the sample in of a clocked S&H, with a quantized output being fed into an ASR into 3 vcos.

Page 1: lfo speed, shape, depth, clock speed
Page 2: vco shapes, root notes, volume, fine tune
Page 3: quantizer scale etc

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#97

I can’t find this on the afterlater site. Do you have a url?

Thanks

#98

There’s a crow script that could be repurposed easily enough I think. It’s in the Bowery git repo.

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#99

Looks like it has been scrubbed from their site and from ModularGrid. If I recall correctly, After Later never publicly stated that their take on the Benjolin was ever authorized by or licensed from Rob Hordijk. Perhaps that had something to do with it?

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#100

Looks like After Later Audio has rebranded to Calsynth. However no Benjolin seems to be offered at the moment.

I cannot recommend Fancy Synthesis Rung Divisions for shift register enough:
https://www.fancysynthesis.net/

It is a beautifully constructed module, that I get a ton of use out of in a pseudo-benjolin method. The Clock/Pulse divider is also underrated in this module and comes in handy for lots of different patches.

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#101

No rebranding that I’m aware of. After Later and Calsynth are just two of many modular “companies” making money selling clones of Mutable modules and other open-source projects.

#102

didn’t know Bugbrand has a shift register. Looks very different from Double Knot

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