#28

maybe we need less hype about the new things and more hype about the OLD THING :slight_smile:

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#29

I’ve been saying that for years…

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#30

Sorry… thought I was helping.

#31

no need to say sorry - i thought your answer was helpful and informative! mine was meant just as a testament to the concept of grid still finding new applications after so many years. wasn’t meant as a critique, apologies!

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#32

Oops yeah, same! …

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#33

Cool, this was a really helpful response! I was almost thinking of getting a monome as a way to stay more digital and software based as opposed to starting a eurorack journey so there is certainly a lot to think about.

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#34

I did this at Christmas, purely as a means to sequence the Eurorack.

It’s not cheap for this purpose, but in terms of having something that is instantly playable and manipulatable in a live context (I don’t play live but set up patches and then evolve sequences on the fly in a single take) it’s ideal. The ease of setting up polyrhythms is terrific.

Oh, and it looks amazing.

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#35

Hey I bought a grid around November and the seller didn’t let me know it was a pre-2011 model that doesn’t even have variable brightness.

I gotta say though, I’m absolutely loving it. The problem with every other piece of muisc tech I’ve ever owned is that they keep you inspired while you’re learning to use them, you play and you learn and you write while learning… but then you start noticing ways in which they don’t perfectly fit with your playing style and so you have to either mould your style to fit the gear or maybe you buy some new gear and the more you use them, the more obvious their design faults become.

With the arc and grid whenever you notice a software design fault ITS YOUR FAULT SO YOU HAVE TO FIX IT.
After a while you end up with a huge library of little elements that you make or rip from other people and you can mix and match them or start new things but with old elements to make it quicker and easier and so the more time you spend developing the more fun and easier it is and for me I just can’t imagine it getting old any time soon.
I was planning to sell on my old grid to buy a newer one but I think I’m gonna keep and AND buy a new one and hell maybe I’ll buy some of monome’s modular integration gear as well EVEN THOUGH I DON’T HAVE ANY MODULAR STUFF but I’ll start with monome because its that much fun and that satisfying.

So my vote is yes, buy a grid.

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#36

Hi!

With this being my first post on the forum I’d like to take the opportunity to say what a brilliant place this is (been lurking for some time)! Over the last few weeks I’ve been listening to all the available episodes of the Sound + Process podcast which I find very inspiring and interesting. It ultimately led me to sign up on the forum.

I’ve always been intrigued by the Grid. it sort of keeps coming back to me again and again as a piece of gear I’d like to invest in, understand and explore. I’ll probably never get into programming myself, but i feel some of the patches out there would already give me a lot of what I’m looking for. Particularily mlr, the Party Van (live audio manipulation) and the patch for pairing with the Organelle.

Now for my question; would the available patches out there work on a Monome 64 non-tilt version, assuming I have the correct files installed and have Max (runtime)?

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#37

I have a 2011 Walnut 64 grid and have had no problem running the recommended apps in Max runtime (party van, mlr, etc.) Definitely worth it imo

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#38

I love my 64 grid, and hope to try and make it stay relevant by modding norns 128 patches into working with the 64 grid.

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#39

Thanks for your answers guys :slight_smile:

Guess I’m that guy of 2019! :joy:

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#41

Any advice? I’ve been looking at them
On and off for the last four years and with the world coming to an end figured now is the time. I’m just worried the learning curve is too steep.

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#42

I don’t know you well enough to say if your are capable of learning how to use a grid. But if you try and need help someone here will surely try to help.

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#43

go for it we will help ~

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#44
I think the most critical thing is the community around these tools. that's really the most important element to engage with. the community helps keep it all magic. so, if you don't end up with a grid (now, or ever), stick around and engage with folks here. that might be all you really need?

but, to expand :slight_smile:

a grid is an entry point + a catalyst. if there is any learning curve, it’s honestly joyous – that curve is really just the process of discovering your voice and finding new ways of working with sound, sequencing, and all the art-making in between and beyond.

there are so many fantastic applications being built these days (by people you can just @ mention!) and so many ideas to engage with if you want to build you own. i’m sure there’s something you want to do with a grid, yeah? start there, at the closed-ended purpose. with just a little bit of time and patience, you’ll find your bearings and that seed will inspire you endlessly.

that curiosity, that “how do i play this?” experience doesn’t dissipate. every few weeks, somebody releases a wonderfully idiosyncratic tool that poses (and answers) really wild musical questions. what grows + changes over time is your orientation to that experience (/ the unknown).

it really does adapt to your needs – or at least, it doesn’t block any avenue. there is no other tool that does this, that can switch contexts as you refine what you want to be making (and how).

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#45

I owned a Monome Grids for about 5 years.I felt instant gratification when I first got it. Things can get very complex too, if you want, of course.
But you can totally just plug it in and run a max msp patch like grainfields in minutes
What set up do you have or plan to use it with?

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#46

I’m going to buy it tomorrow. :slight_smile: this made me feel like I can work my way through it and have you all helping is pretty amazing!
Thanks! Mcqueen

#47

I got mine (second hand) at the start of the year. I’ve been somewhat obsessed with “grids” and looping for a few years, and Monome + MLR was always the pinacle after working my way through numerous Launchpads, product managing Novation Circuit etc.

Since that time, I’ve also gone all in on building up the Norns DIY and finding a lot of joy in the exceptional scripts that the community has built.

Re:Mix, and Meadow Physics were my initial experiences to get going.

Using the Monome with VCV Rack is also a lot of great fun (Meadow Physics again). I don’t know if you’re coming from the Eurorack world or not.

To my mind the results far outweighed the learning curve. I think the whole craziness with MaxMSP as part of the learning process had blurred into the background for me. The documentation and this forum are incredibly rich with information and support.

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#48

I’m not a modular person. I have a dfam, mother 32, subharmonicon and matriarch I don’t use a lot. I’m really using the op-1 and a 104m delay. My idea was to plus it into Logic Pro x and start at that vantage point while learning and then eventually investing and learning more modular stuff. I have some good teachers who love it but even after performing at Moogfest and being around it, it hasn’t clicked.