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[adrianf]

That’s a solid tip! I couldn’t put my finger (haha) on it but you’re right, the strings do feel different. I chalked it up to the fret and lower action. I also had to severely reduce my finger plucking and note finger force from that of the cello - the joys of electric amplification!

One issue I’m finding is in the higher registers on the lower C string, i am getting slight wolf tone? It could be my technique as well. Perhaps I will switch string types and see if this it’s reduced. I suspect I need to take this to a luthier anyway when it’s safe to do so.

[lumena]

From your description of what you are looking at I think there is a bit of confusion based on the chart as a diagram of the scale.
In the beginning part of the course he is showing you basic fingering shapes - left hand 1,2,4 for the pattern you are looking at.

In the next section he keeps the fingering pattern but adjusts fret. positions so that the muscle patterns learned here are applied to the correct notes to make a scale. The goal here is get the muscle memory of the shapes and that way you can just make slight adjustments to play lots of different scale/appeggios.

Another thing to concentrate on is the picking he uses -he is doing a simplified down sweep/hammer and then a pluck with middle finger going up
Then going down is a reverse sweep with pull offs - at first it is awkward but in a couple of days it will smooth out and it is quite flowing. If you think about the picking that way it all makes a bit more sense.

note I am attaching the bit I think you are looking at -

[zebra]

i’m a violist/violinist by training, not a cellist.

but yeah, i don’t think muscle memory translates too well given the different hand position and string spacing. (in a way the tenor guitar is easier on the wrist than the viola…)

i just find the intervallic expectations easier to manage. i play a lot of counter-melodies / basslines on the baritone and its just much easier to get around on than a bass guitar. (given that you’re used to “thinking in 5ths”)

for the tenor i find its actually easier to manage chord shapes with a fourth on top (CGDG) than to attempt mandolin fingerings on the bigger fretboard.

but they are just different instruments and do different stuff.

[ElectricaNada]

I would suggest practicing harmonized scales with four note chords. This will get the vocabulary under your fingers pretty quickly. Once you have the diatonic harmonized scales down, then play dim7 chords on the non-chord tones.

[adrianf]

Good advice! Definitely giving my note hand a workout. In jazz, is it good practice to keep the melody on the top note while playing the chord? Going off of a REAL(Fake) book, would I play the 4 note chord but kind of swap the melody line for the top note as I play along? Sorry for these very rudimentary jazz questions.

[ElectricaNada]

Yes, definitely keep the melody on top for now. Putting it anywhere else would be more of a special effect. You might look at a jazz mandolin method. I’m not qualified to recommend one, but they tune in fifths too.

[ElectricaNada]

Also, the easiest way to get started playing those standards is to play a chord on the chord tones in the melody. For non-chord tones, play the nearest inversion of the underlying chord, but adjust the top note to fit the melody. Sometimes we use dim7 or dom7 chords to play those non-chord tone melody notes, but only if we want the tension or only if it’s a short passing note.

[kisielk]

Check out some of Jens Larsen’s videos on YouTube. He has a few recent ones specifically on chord melody. They’re for regular guitar but you can apply the same principles.

[rmro]

Sure thanks, yes that’s the pattern I was referring to. The hybrid picking I find a bit beyond my abilities currently but I’m working at it.

Attached below is example 2 from the Phrygian Scale Arpeggios lesson. The duplicate note is when moving from the 2nd to 3rd string and vice versa.

I don’t want to labour the point, appreciate it’s going a bit off thread here.

EX.02

[t3h]

I’m struggling with radio frequency issues with my Godin A11, opened up the preamp and I have to say I’m surprised to find no very little RF shielding on the preamp whatsoever. Just some sensitive electronics in a wooden box.

[kisielk]

Time for some copper tape

How do you like the A11 (apart from the radio noise)? I have one as well.

[t3h]

@kisielk

How do you like the A11 (apart from the radio noise)? I have one as well.

Because of the radio statics I have not been able to use it much. The noisy preamp aside, my first impression is that it’s well built and capable instrument that requires fair amount of learning. I like the concept but I would also like to explore it with the single strings using more traditional finger picking technique of a nylon string instrument. The natural sound is surprisingly loud so I’m thinking of adding a microphone inside of the body and blending the sound with the piezo pickup in the future.

[vicimity]

[stephenvit]

Meant to add - guitar is from LsL Instruments. Amp is 1963 (I think) Fender Deluxe.

[rmro]

Nice, how’s Mood and Blooper as a pair? I have and love Mood and use it with Tensor, really intrigued by Blooper but it’s pricey.

[ninoshiro]

Unfortunately my playing isn’t as great as this setup

[stephenvit]

I like Mood and Blooper together. That said, I think about switching out Mood as I basically have three different delays in a row. The Echoltd is beautiful sounding. Blooper is endless fun. I tend to use Mood as a delay and occasionally for short loops. With my small board, switching Mood for a granular pedal or tremolo might be more practical for my playing (which is also never great but gives me great pleasure)

[909one]

I’m thinking about getting a Mood… I think Im going to move away from Eurorack effects back to guitar pedals. I currently have a Morphagene and a Mimeophone as my main effects (which I do run guiatr through) and I feel like for the money and the way I use them Id be better off with an analog delay, and some granular type pedal, and maybe something like a Dark World, or perhaps the Walrus Slo for reverb. I find that my guitar playing has really suffered moving my effects to euro, because inevitably I just patch and dont really play when I sit down. As opposed to having pedals, where it encourages you to play more. I also think guiatr pedals in general impart more ‘vibe’ on the signal
path. Anyone else in this boat?

[praffensperger]

Cool board. What’s the brown pedal with the 4 clear knobs?

[ninoshiro]

I’m kind of leaning towards the opposite. I feel that I’m less interested in playing the guitar than exploring and tinkering with sounds (I have some history with synthesis, designing step sequencers and audio effects). So in my mind stepping into eurorack and Monome is the way to go, of which I don’t own anything yet. (talk me out of it please) My pedalboard would probably be stripped down a bit, with maybe even Volante ending up as Magneto in eurorack. Thermae will never go though