Where are you putting the Tanh in the signal path to manage Clouds’ feedback? Just on the signal input?
This might be a discussion for the Mutable thread, but I find Clouds to be unruly if the output isn’t limited/compressed. I like to patch all of my sloths outputs to all of the Clouds inputs resulting in quasi-random granular patch. I find that tanh after the clouds out keeps volume controlled when density/texture/feedback spikes. It allows for really nice textures to emerge without the volume spike. Hopefully that made sense?
Yes, helpful use case, thanks!
Right on! It really is a useful little module.
to chime in on the tanh:
i have been looking for a dedicated saturation/distortion module for quite some time after i came across the second waveshaping algorithm on the expert sleepers disting (i think it is pretty much the same concept as the tanh!?).
there was just nothing out, that sparked excitement (had a look at the ivan etc) before i came across tanh.
often i simply use it for subtle saturation. giving more body to all sort of sounds (e.g. buzzy wavetables and folded source material). often mixed with the original signal to keep definition.
been exploring it in a delay feedback path (chronoblob) with astonishing results (long controlled delays).
the other day i was connecting some contact mics to a mutable instrument ears and just for fun, adding the tanh after — mind blowing … you can get so much more amplification of really quiet sounds without compromising on louder ones (yeah, that’s what they call compression, i guess).
also fun: creating a version of the original sound for a nice spatialisation effect. panning the original sound hard left and the slightly saturated one hard right …
the tanh brings out many good things in a sophisticated and subtle way. really happy so far …
I finally got the chance to pick up a Bard Ivan (rare in the US for a while) and talked myself into a tanh(3) soon after. I kept the tanh it’s really nice for warming up audio and can make envelopes a bit “sticky” in a nifty way. Not really my favorite thing for feedback loops usually, but there are enough other uses for it to keep me happy.
So I measured the noise coming off my unpatched blob v2 and while I can’t express it accurately in dB, I can compare it to other modules in the same case, w/ the same power, running through the same signal chain.
Basically, Chronoblob 2 has self-noise 6-8% higher than what I could find from an unpatched Rings. It had about 5% less noise than my unpatched Optomix. To get measurable noise at all I had to max all the gain stages. For me, under my conditions, noise is not a problem from any of these modules.
If you feel you have more noise than this, I might look at your power.
So I assume correctly that you sold Ivan? Would you care to expand your thoughts on Ivan? A friend of mine is making these modules so I could always pass some feedback to him
Right now there is also tube VCA in the works from BARD https://www.instagram.com/p/BsQuXj2hfOD/ and from what I hear it sounds really nice
I also have a standalone tube filter/saturator + tube phaser from BARD:
I could make some demos when I will find free time.
I did sell the Ivan. I thought the sound was fine, but what it does to input is almost like biased rectification. If I remember correctly, it wasn’t possible to dial in just “a little bit of drive” but rather, how much of the top of the wave was folded/clipped/etc.
I prefer the way tanh can be used more subtly to affect the curvature, and with DC signals as well as audio, and there are three of the circuits in 4HP.
Got the new case and Mannequins modules this week. While I did imagine that I would like the modules, I could never imagine just how much! This feels like the electronic instrument I’ve always wanted but did not know existed Absolutely fantastic expressive possibilities.
One of the “blanks” will be fit in with the Metasonix RK3 which I had to send out for repair, should be back next week or so, and with my new sound card I’ll probably get rid of the Deeper mixer eventually. I’ll be keeping both the STO and Dixie for now until I figure out which one is most useful in this configuration. The last HP once that decision is made will probably be some form of controller (if I do not go for a Roli Block Seaboard) and/or more modulation, quite interested in one of the NLC chaos modules but with all the new possibilities the Mannequins modules have provided, It’ll most likely be a while before I make any additions/changes.
Its basically a foldable MDR case. I use an MPC Live for sampling (out of the case too) and beat duties. Sometimes i plug a guitar in or chain an El Capistan into the case. I‘m really happy with this and its a ‚small setup‘ dream fullfilled-everything i ever want to do is possible here.
By the way; do you use it for synced/quantized sampling or do you just record, then trim? I’m curious about the ways people use the MPC Live with modular.
I do both. Say tweak some drum sounds in modular record wild in MPC, trim and make an instrument. I quite often record a couple of phrases off the modular in sync just to have them on a harddisk, this works really well in sync and you basically have audio tracks inside the MPC. Whats great here is that you can rerecord freely or have the input on and not record at all-all this works very much like a DAW. I still haven’t touched MPCs Looper yet, there‘s potential there as well-you probably can use this live, stacking sounds in realtime!
And there is a cool feature with the massive 2.3 update: Auto record a sample instrument😳
So you have a modular synth sound that you‘d want to record and make an instrument out of-in the MPC you determine how many notes over how many octaves, for how long, looped or unlooped and with which note/pad to start. MPC will send midi data (in my case via hermod) and automate the whole process…this is a great timesaver! What Akai presented with Force some weeks ago can all be done with the live as well, sort of, its not the same hardware. So really this is the Music Production Center 1 drawback that i can see still with my machine is that recording is limited to 44.1khz 24bit this might be different with force…but really i‘d like me some 96khz recordings off my modular, damn
My father’s aunt had a New Zealand pine cone in her house, and it’s similar, a huge thing. When I was about 6 I planted one of the seeds from it in a dark corner of my parents’ garden in Ireland under lots of other trees and then we all forgot about for about 25 years until this huge pine tree started to poke out though all the other trees and soon was towering about them, covered in its own enormous pine cones.
In the midst of trying to track down why my system was suddenly picking up classic rock and hip hop radio stations I decided to go ahead freshen things up a bit.
Ps. I believe the Presonus firestudio mobile was to blame…but only the preamp portion of the unit
This is 1.0 of the tape music system I’ve been working on. My goal for this year is to turn the loop jams I’ve been doing into something I can do live and keep interesting. Teletype triggering multiple w/ to return to cue points at different times seem to be the key to being able to create large changes in the feel of the piece. The matrix mixer gives me dynamic parallel/series looping options. Really happy with how it has felt thus far, needs lots more practice though.
Current iteration, with notes. My MMG has white knobs, the RxMx is on loan to me, and the Pressure Points is a glossy-panel placeholder without knobs or circuit board that I got from @trickyflemming (which will eventually be replaced by an actual Pressure Points module):
My goal, barring any other surprise announcements, is to upgrade from this 6U 84HP + 3U 104HP skiff and into a Make Noise 7U 104HP + 3U 104HP skiff. The few additions throughout the year would be from Make Noise (QPAS, my own RxMx and FxdF, Morphagene and the “Gene Pool” 2HP microSD card holder I want to make for it), Mannequins Cold Mac, and the Worng Electronics SoundStage.
I came up with a tentative plan for my new case which I’ve been calling “2.0” since it’s a pretty big break with my current setup…
MDLRCASE 12U x 114HP – seemed like my best choice for form factor in a case that wasn’t a little too small, a little too wide, or cost more.
Pedals will go on top of the case (Dark World, Tensor, Afterneath and maybe I’ll keep my MS-70CDR). 16n Faderbank goes in front. Microbrute will probably have to go to the other side of my desk (I’d like to replace it with a minimal MIDI keyboard, but I love its saturated filtered triangle a lot.)
The mults on the left side are my cheap 1:1 patchbay for accessing my audio interface; otherwise I use Stackables for multiples.
Those blank panels are going to park there for a while. Aside from reknobbing Maths and maybe Five-Step, I’m going to wait until I’ve sold off enough old gear to cover my 2019 spending before I spend anything else. I do have a Volca Modular on my want list, maybe a Tetrapad.
I haven’t put my Hertz Donut mk2, Kermit or Chronolob up for sale yet but I expect to once I get to know the ER-301. I might even trim things down a little more.