Jacob is 20char awesome…

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oof, been on this journey for sure so I’ll serve you up another long one


re:gear - I’ve personally found that using less and sticking with software has been really crucial. my biggest breakthroughs with music have revolved around abandoning hardware and diving deeper with software. what’s been working best for me has been sticking with two minimal, open controllers.

I’ve been incorporating acoustic live sampling (some grid+arc action in that one) into all of my sets too, but the results of that have been mixed for me to be honest. @Rodrigo is someone who has really mastered that process.

the combination of input and customization has been a focus. I map every part of my controllers, and I don’t put anything in my patch that isn’t mapped (I work in max). In theory, pagination can let you get more out of less controllers, but I’ve found that even when implementing that well, It’s more useful to have immediate access to every control. I had a cool system that paginated an arc from a grid but ultimately I ended up replacing the arc with simple midi ccs.

the key for me to get more out of less controllers is constant redefinition. for the most part I’m working to change my patch every time I make music, similar to modular (@dan_derks is a master of redefining his small systems - I’m also really attracted to the design patterns behind Serge). given the unintuitive nature of max, the aspect of redefinition has resulted in a whole journey on it’s own, and a huge evolving API project.


My sets are mostly improvised, usually with just a plan of how to start the set, which I come up with while practicing. I usually practice a few times before a set, but my best one is always the real thing, which is handy. thinking about tracks seems kind of arbitrary for me when I’m just improvising, but sometimes I run into silent bits so maybe that’s similar.


pre-recorded material is something I want to engage with much more. I started live sampling cause samples in an ambient context seemed like cheating to me, but I’m starting to realize the advantages of that process compared to live sampling. so far I’ve really just kept a field recording looping in my sets as something to react to a bit. want to expand there probably.

Ironically I’ve only ever played house shows and used my own studio monitors for playback, so haven’t had any bad PA encounters


that about sums up my experience so far, down to answer more q’s !

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My small live rig isn’t either modular, nor monome based, but I hope the ideas are useful:

The mechanics of the gear are straight forward:
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  • Audio from the two main sources: Digitakt for sampled percussion, and bass and bell lines, and mangling field recordings. MicroMonsta for pads, chords, fill, and sometimes lead. These are mixed, passed to the PiSound where the RaspberryPi runs SuperCollider and runs a range of master bus effects over them: reverbs, delays, filters, etc…

  • Control from Launchpad Pro and UC44 runs to RaspberryPi where in SuperCollider the control can be very flexibly routed on the fly: Notes on the LP grid to Digitakt or MicroMonsta. Some faders to Digitakt for track volumes; encoders (banked) and faders to RPi for controlling the effects; buttons on both devices to control routings

  • The RaspberryPi also serves as master clock, Ableton Link node, WiFi hotspot (for connecting other musicians), and a master recorder, recording everything I send to house.

I sometimes substitute a different synth, or a different keyboard controller. And I’ve started exploring how to incorporate both a KMI BopPad and a Jambé.

Over the last few years, I developed some guiding principles for the rig:

  • Should be able to get it from my car to where I’m playing in one trip.
  • Should be self-contained: I bring my own table, 2’ x 2’ at the standing height - and everything fits on it.
  • No screen between me and the audience.
  • I should know the instrument well enough to play it without labels on controls.
  • Rather than bring “infinite possibility” with me, I want a clear instrument - even if that instrument is awash with timbral options.

Musically, what I do live depends a lot on the context of the performance:

  • Open Mic style show: If I’m on a bill with many others, playing a short set (15 ~ 20 min.) - I’ll do a total improv. set. This is usually a continuation of my Infinite Set, where I start with just the last pattern of the last set, and a selection of about 100 samples. Then I go from there. I’ll usually plan a mood before the show, and do 2 or 3 practice sessions. These are never repeated after the performance.

  • Longer solo set: For shows 30min. or longer, I’ll prepare a selection of parts that flow into each other. Some of these segments will be composed, some will be improv over a basic idea, with perhaps sounds preselected, and an aim for hitting the next transition. The composed works are generally composed in structure, timing, timbre, and key - exact notes are left to performance. These shows are heavily rehearsed, mostly so that I can execute the transitions. They are repeatable in that I’m playing the same music each night. But not in the sense of down to every note.

  • Ensemble sets: I did a fair bit of work with two keyboardists. For these sets (between 20 min. and an hour) - we played totally improv… but found that playing as tracks worked best, rather than trying to be continuous. We’d play tracks between 7 and 15 min. long each, agreeing on stage to a tempo and feel - and going from there. These are rehearsed by simply playing together in a rehearsal studio every week. If we are playing sets within a few days we tended to repeat the basic feel of the tracks, and reuse patches and samples.

I hope next year to be able to pull together a longer format show: a full two hours or more. This will be like the longer solo set above, but probably with a more extended set of composed pieces, and of course more thoroughly rehearsed. This will let me play some of the more complex musical ideas that I currently only ever explore in the context of studio compositions.

I do use samples - esp. field recordings from around the world. I almost always chop these, stretch them, and mangle them a fair bit. I don’t use music clips or samples, nor do I pre-record or pre-sequence any of my music. This is just personal preference: I find using pre-recorded clips take me out of the head space of instrumentalist.


Venues have a strong effect on my performance. Here’s some things I’ve learned along the way so far:

  • In cafes, people like breaks so they don’t feel awkward getting up and moving, ordering more coffee, etc. They also talk and move around in bars and clubs, but somehow the darker environment, they don’t feel awkward and do so even if you don’t give them breaks.

  • If it is a more formal space: folks are sitting in chairs, they introduce you, dim the lights… Then I try to present more of a story: The audience is hanging on you more, and they want to anticipate the cadence that leads to the end (even if you give them a few false starts). In this context I think of the whole performance more as theater.

  • If it is a less formal environment: a gallery opening, say, or music at a BBQ (yes I’ve done this), then I can do more ambient, more texture based work.

As for sound in venues: Be Prepared!

I’m always sure to know what the PA situation is in detail. One too many times arriving to find I’m playing through a single bass amp! If I can, I’ll even go to the venue in advance to see and hear the system. For smaller venues this is crucial, as the person booking you often has no idea what they have or can’t describe it correctly.

I do have a set of moderate PA speakers (ZLX-12Ps) which can power a cafe, gallery, or odd space up to about 200 people. I’ll use these if the venue doesn’t have decent sound. Pro tip: buy long (25’ or longer) power cords (14AWG or heavier) and long balanced audio cables. I also have a two extra mixers (8ch and 16ch), which I sometimes need to bring. If I’m driving to the venue, I’ll put a crate of cables, adapters, and one of the extra mixers in the trunk of my car… just in case!

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This thread is golden! Coming back to read, and to post a long post!

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There’s been times when I’ve pared my live setup down to this:

  • Laptop [running Ableton 9]
  • Novation Launchpad Mini
  • Table [optional - depends on the state of the floor :wink: ]

A lot of spaces I play are small so there’s size restrictions, and being solo, I don’t feel like carrying a bunch of gear in and out - particularly if I’m not playing a long set. Also, the more gear you have, the more chances there are of tech issues!

Some of the venues I’ve played have had great PAs, some don’t have a PA at all [DIY everything], some have bad PAs…I’ve learnt not to be fazed by whatever happens, but I always make sure I’m prepared [in terms of powerboards, cables, etc.]. It’s live, it’s not meant to be pitch perfect and most of the time audience won’t know :slight_smile:

Length can vary depending on the setting. Anything from 10mins to an hour, although most shows here let you go for about 30mins. I usually play the full length of the set, so long-form.

I largely improvise when playing live. I prepare in the sense I think of a theme I want to explore - for instance, with one show I wanted to think about the changes in the seasons, and another show I was thinking about ‘the insect apocalypse’ [aka the reduction in insect numbers in large parts of the world]. I also prepare in the sense of working out timing and transitions.

My work is heavily field-recording based, and pre-processed - I’d record and prep the sound samples beforehand. So I guess my work live is less about ‘playing’ an instrument but more about mixing in sounds to create a soundscape and taking listeners on a journey. I do have a synth dialed in as well so I play some ambient notes in the background now and again for contrast / ambiance.

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My main setup these days is just Digitakt and Digitone. With these two, I can basically swing a whole set. Sometimes I add a K-Mix to have a more flexible EQ with me and not have to rely on what mixer is present at the venue. But I don’t use the K-Mix to actually mix stuff.

This core setup can then be enhanced by some more loose things like a (very) small modular system, a cassette player or Cocoquantus - although I have yet to use Coco in a live context. But I’m sure I will at some point.

The extra gear is routed back into the Digitone for delay and reverb. And that’s it.

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I had performed with this setup for certain times. Every time had slightly adjustments depending on what I wanted to do, but more or less the setup contains several types of instruments:

Morfbeats Strips and/ or some Latin percussive instruments and/ or found objects
Effect pedals
Analog mixer or multitrack cassette recorder
Mic

My approach was to capture the sound live (live sampling), and store to the pedals, many of my pedals are in sampler/ looper category. For choosing between analog mixer or multitrack is the most difficult struggle to me, because they have both pros and cons, and I think it is interesting to share to people who interested in these kind of setup. Noted that this is only a side by side comparison by my own perspective:

Analog mixer

Pro:
Cleaner sound
Better control of your sound (precise EQ and leveling)
More signal routing option
Phantom power for mics

Multitrack Cassette Recorder

Pro:
Characteristic sound
Tape loop and sample player are built in (so it save me an extra looper and playback device)

Cons:
Smaller headroom
No phantom power, it limits my choice of mics
Not ideal for direct mic in, I need a transformer to match the input impedance
Routing is relatively lesser option

I think for the next performance I will bring a smaller analog mixer with a smaller multitrack so I can have the best of both world, still experiment with all possible setups since I already got all the gears I need.

For the effect pedals, I must say I heavily rely on Count To Five, Tensor and Lo-Fi Loop Junkies. If needed I would also bring one more looper too. I have got a Gamechanger Plus pedal if I want to sustain the sound from the Morfbeats strips. For reverb part I mainly use Bit Quest or Météore.

I don’t have many instrument mics, and in fact I think mic is not that important in my setup, I usually perform in small venues, feedback is one of my big enemy. If the room is treated good I would bring my SM81 instead of RE20.

Before this kind of setup I was a full modular person. If compare to modular, this setup is more inconvenience, but after all both make different sounds.

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Nice arrows. Omnigraffle?

Yes, Omnigraffle, on OSX.

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@andrew, your performance 102818, is really beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

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I’ve been doing live solo electronic sets for a few years now and I like to mix things up every so often depending on the context. For the last year I would do shows with just a Korg Electribe 2, because it’s easy to carry, I can improvise/rearrange songs, or I can predicably play a cohesive set. This is for more groove-based music. Kind of chiptune-inspired chillwave I guess. I’d occasionally bring a Volca or Pocket Piano, but typically forget to grab a midi cable or sometime.

Before I got the E2 I would use something like this:

I would usually switch things around every show, but the idea was the same. Improv with a few “composed” songs. Usually I’d bring this to noise shows, even though I play ambient music and don’t consider myself much of a noise connoisseur. I guess it fits the atmosphere and I can appreciate some well-done noise.

I’m going to be playing a modular show next month and I haven’t decided on my approach yet. I’ll likely set up a fairly predictable three-voice patch with some wildcard modulation tossed in somewhere. I need to rehearse more to decide if I’ll take only the rack, or bring a Keystep and improvise, or rearrange some of my other music to be performed with three mono voices instead of having (up to) six different VAs on my E2.

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It’s me again, I did a live performance with this setup last Saturday. Compare with my former similar shows I did the following changes:

Replace several pedals with norns as a sample/re-sampler
Replace analog mixer (Mackie) with Mixpre-6
No reverb on the modular

I am satisfied with the result! But guess I might carry a reverb pedal, and setup a send/return routing on the Mixpre for the next time.

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What’s the role of the mixpre 6?

It acts as a 4-channel mixer (with limiter function).
I think I will add a nanokontrol 2 with it next time.

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I love your set - beautiful. Nice work. Is the rack you’ve shown here the rack you performed with in the Lowtide set (aside from the laptop interlude in the middle)?

If so, I’m really impressed that you got such a nice variety of textures with such a small set of modules. Are you using only the Mangrove as a VCO, or are you using JF as a VCO, too?

:sunglasses: :partying_face:

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I used this for an ambient set a few years back. Mainly running scenes on the Launchoad app but through lots of pedals

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I love to perform with small set up and I use many different piece of gear that I swap all the time, but this is one of my favourite “ 2 things in the bacpack” set.
It goes organelle alone and granny alone or granny into organelle (for fx) or one sampling the other and then resampling and then…

and so on, always live patching

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Thanks for the kind words. I truthfully don’t remember much about the exact set up, but I’ll do my best to recall:

  • The rack was pretty similar but not exact. Add another mangrove and maybe an ansible and verbos scan and pan, subtract W// as they weren’t in existence yet and moddemix as I had gotten that recently. My rack now is even different from the above post; no mangrove, teletype, moddemix, and one less w/ but add mimeophon, crow, and falistri. New rack was used in a set very recently with a four-track and tape loop

  • I remember that I used two mangroves for this set. Now I have none, for although I love how mangrove sounds, I just wanted to change things a bit.

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Wow, this is really awesome. I dig it. How did you incorporate a four track into this performance?

I imagine you could have pre-prepared material on there, or you record /loop new material live?

posting here to stay in the loop and see propers contributions - i’m about to start performing live with an ensemble but i’m planning a live set up and dont want to get bogged down carrying a bunch of stuf