Yeah, that is normal. The attenuators purposefully don’t close completely.
Hello friends, I have a few questions for people who have a hardware Lyra-8. I have made in implementation in Reaktor and am working on the final tuning. It will never be identical to a real Lyra, but it was a fun exercise over the past several days and is a blast to play.
- When fully clockwise, does the Sharp knob ever reach a true square wave? In one of the demo videos I saw, it seems to reach more of a shark tooth wave. Right now I am mixing between a triangle wave and a filtered sawtooth.
- Does the Total Feedback send the final audio-rate output signal as the modulation signal, or does it first get passed through an envelope follower? I have tried both, and suspect it is the former.
- The Vibrato has different rates for each voice pair, any guesses as to the approximate frequencies? Right now I have them set to 2, 2.5, 3, and 3.5 Hz.
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- The sharp knob: the actual shape changes as you increase the Tune knob, and is slightly different for each oscillator.
It gets square-like at the low end of the Tune knob, except for oscillators 7-8.
At about halfway up the Tune knob:
At about 3 o’clock it’s more like:
It loses a lot of stability past that point and flattens back toward triangle-hood (as if the sharp knob had been turned down).
On mine, oscs 7-8 at full CCW start off at about where 1-6 are at noon.
I never even realized this until now. Typically the tune knobs are somewhere between 9 and 3 – the range for each knob is different for each pair of oscillators, so they don’t necessarily increase from left to right.
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Total Feedback: is really hard to figure out, so I can’t even answer the question. It doesn’t sound like it’s self-FMing though.
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Vibrato depth also varies. 1-2 has a very minimal amount of vibrato – like you don’t even perceive it as vibrato – and it’s probably closer to 1Hz. Oscs 3-4 don’t have much more depth, and are maybe 1.8 Hz? 5-6 are probably 3Hz, and 7-8 have too much vibrato for my tastes and it’s probably about 4Hz.
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Interesting, thanks. The screenshots are helpful.
Regarding the Vibrato, one thing I did was change it from a switch to an attenuator. That way the amount of vibrato is variable, rather than fixed.
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twenty characters of chapeau
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If anyone wants to give it a go, here’s my Reaktor Lyra:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/13457/
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Oh my, oh my. Just when I have been bit by GAS for Lyra 8 hard, but still pondering about some other options, and the best option that would be to just not buy more stuff. Thought about making lyra-esque patch with Blocks so this is just what I needed.
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this is great thanks!
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This just arrived from Perfect Circuit. I was enamored with the mint green, but once I saw the pink I was all over it. It’s beautiful… should have sent a poet.
I’m already in love with it. Now I can really dial in the Reaktor model too, which I had done without having gotten to play a Lyra. Also, you know, make music with it.
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Yeah - I went pink too! Definitely finding uses that are beyond droney stuff. Can get some really good rhythms to loop out of it!
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I don’t use Reaktor otherwise I’d totally give this a go. Envious you have a virtual military green there! I have a white hardware Lyra. Often wonder about asking them to sell different colors of the top plate. These are like military drones in the iMac era of color themes.
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That’s gorgeous, in sort of a bleak industrial way (as it should be). My black one seems a bit ordinary now, at least until I turn it on…
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So I’ve been creating lots of cool rhythmic bits - which admittedly is not the usual use of the Lyra. While they are great to sample and loop I’m wanting to sync other things to them in a live context and am at a loss of how best to do this. My best so far is an old Red box from the 90s used to sync drum machines to live DJ turntables - but it’s fussy. Anyone have luck with a way to extract the super LFO to something like a clock? The input is different functionally and while it’s cool it isn’t the key to syncing the cool rhythms I’m getting. I want to figure out a way to have it do its loops and sync the Flame Maander to it for processing with multiband filter envelope sequences.
this question was answered a while back in this thread after someone emailed vlad kreimer about it … the mod knob does not have zero, if you don’t want any effect, flip the switch to the centre (off) to turn off modulation on the voices. otherwise the knob modulates whatever source the switch is flipped to.
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There’s an LED which seems to be lit when the LFO crosses some threshold. You could buffer that signal, perhaps. Or tape an LDR to it externally for a non-invasive solution.
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I like that - that angle didn’t even occur to me!
Prob gonna go non-invasive though. Time to dig out my Arduino kit - I think I could even code off the light to make the signal a clean clock. Thank you! I’ll let know know if it all works out.
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The pink one is just beautiful. How are you liking it, especially compare to your Reaktor model?
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I would say I’m still in the honeymoon phase, but it’s been one of the rare purchases where the reality lived up to my expectation. It’s a terrific instrument with a very thoughtful design and I’ve loved having it.
The Reaktor model can get surprisingly close with some patches, but now that I have the real thing I can see what needs to change. For one, it needs to get a heck of a lot dirtier, so that’s coming. I’ve also already worked up a “BBD” toggle that adds in the tone from the analog delay. The one I have is way too clean, but it will still be there. The BBD version includes the added noise that comes with longer delay times and a bit reduction / sample rate reduction effect. I’m fine-tuning that now.
I also need to add the hilarious “pitch sag” that occurs when you engage the vibrato.
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Well color me surprised, I assumed there was an analog BBD delay in there, but I opened mine up today to find two of the venerable PT2399 chips staring back at me. The delay is digital:
http://www.princeton.com.tw/Portals/0/Product/PT2399_1.pdf
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