Is it possible to use trigger sequencer with Hermod to step through sequence of a track for example. Or to start stop playback?

Yep, you can do both of those things. See there “CV Transport” section here for details of the transport stuff you can control with the CV inputs: Hermod Settings

Does anyone know a way to improve the CV IN pitch quantization? If I’m sending alternating 0V 1V segments (from a Marbles with Steps full CW), the quantizer often latches on to the wrong pitch (typically a semitone sharp or flat). I have this problem with other sources and other quantizers, but e.g. the Ornament & Crime has a “trigger delay” option to counteract this, where it waits a few hundred microseconds to quantize as it knows incoming pitch CVs can take a brief moment to settle on the correct voltage.

Try the Quantize Note (Gate) in Settings. This will sample and hold the incoming CV based on a gate. Assuming the Gate is sent at the same time as the CV then it should work. I agree though - an ability to delay the sampling would help. I’ve found emailing Squarp via their website with suggestions can produce fixes in future firmware updates. They’re very active.

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Oh sorry… to clarify, that’s already the setting I’m using. I’ve posted this question on their forum as well but gotten no response. I’ll email them directly, good idea :+1:

New firmware update !

hermodOS V1.61
September 22, 2020

Bug fixes

  • CV REC was broken
  • Advanced editor could not go backward
  • Prevent all freeze issues while randomizing tracks
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As someone who frequently uses CV record without any issues, I’m curious to know what was broken and what the firmware update does. Unfortunately, visiting the OS page, there are no further details.

Ahhhhhh I was so confused about this one! I couldn’t figure out why it kept going forward no matter which way I turned the knob. Very nice!

Also - does Squarp send email updates, or do you just need to remember to check their website?

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It’s great to see the Squarp team so active about Hermod ! :hugs:

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What kind of usb cable is needed to connect norns to Hermod?

Simple usb a to b works for me (like https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-2-0-Cable-Male/dp/B00NH11KIK)

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Finally got around to messing with hermod and realized how many of my modules it makes redundant. cool!

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I absolutely adore it. I haven’t even gotten into its CV recording features, or half of the effects, but I still use it in almost every patch

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@rileycraft @21echoes Do you have patch examples or ideas for Hermod?

I’ve been messing around with effects mostly. I patch from the voice and trig into the mono voice of hermod then I add Delay, scales, glide and I randomize it and see what it spits out. I also like to randomize the pitch, length and pattern through the steps. I also made neat sounds playing with transpose in the scales effect. I found True Cuckoo’s tutorial very helpful.

At its most basic, i have the following almost always set up: normal monophonic mode (one track per output pair), tracks 1 thru 3 are patched to my three VCOs (Plaits, Rings, Mangrove). They all take Hermod’s CV into their pitch inputs, Plaits and Rings take the gate into their level/trig inputs, and Mangrove i’ll patch the gate coming out of Hermod into an envelope generator to a VCA (rather than using Magrove’s air input, which I’ll CV from other sources instead). Track 8 I have reserved for clock out, in “G8+RUN” mode (so the CV is a “run” signal, and the gate is the clock), patched into the run and clock inputs on Pam’s. From there, I use Pam as my lead clock.

All of that i have saved to the default project, so that’s the default state whenever i turn on Hermod. I have my keyboard plugged in to the MIDI in, and i’ll typically choose a voice and come up with something, tap BPM into Hermod, then and record a loop. Then i’ll layer in other voices. If i don’t like a part later, quick clear -> record something new.

The main other ways i’ll get melodies going is either patching Marbles’ gates&CVs into Hermod’s inputs, or using Hermod’s built-in randomizer (run thru a pitch quantizer). Sometimes i’ll mix and match, and have a manually performed melody on one track or two, and the others randomized.

So yeah, nothing too complicated, but it matches my workflow exactly – quick and precise loop recording paired with being the lead clock’s secret leader. Rhythm and pitch quantization available if desired.

Hi! I know this is a late question, but what exactly did you have in mind and did you achieve what upu wanted?
Im torn with this module and im after pros to convince mysrlf to get it,
Cheers!

So my original plan was to use Hermod to convert Teletype to MIDI to sequence stuff on my computer. I ended up selling both and have greatly reduced my setup. My issue with the Hermod is that it packs a ton of functionality into a tiny interface. As a MIDI-to-CV interface, it’s solid, but as a sequencer, it’s really fiddly to program and I ended up fighting with it. Plus, I bought during the initial run, so the first few firmwares were unstable and missing later features.

I shrank a 15U+ setup down to a 9U case and am making music again. I have the Five12 Vector Sequencer in my case as both the main sequencer and MIDI-to-CV interface, and I’m much happier with it. The sequencing interface is significantly better.

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I have the Hermod and Vector Sequencer and I really like both of them – each does things the other can’t do (or at least, can’t do as easily). As @trickyflemming mentions, Hermod packs a lot into a small space, which means there’s definitely some fiddling around + button combos to get to all of the functionality – but it does so much! You can swap out some or all of the sequencer lanes for up to 8 LFOs (optionally tempo-synced) and 8 clock dividers/generators (with probability via the MIDI effects) or Euclidean sequencers. That’s great! And the MIDI effect chains are really powerful – when you start stacking effects you can get amazing results. With the Vector Sequencer you can only have one note effect per step, unlike Hermod’s effect chains – but on the other hand you can sequence note effects on the Vector Sequencer, which you can’t do with Hermod.

More generally, the two modules have different philosophies. Hermod is a piano-roll style sequencer – it’s centered around real-time recording and not very friendly for manual note entry. On the other hand, the Vector Sequencer is all about step sequencing so it’s way more full-featured in that regard (and the generative & randomization functions go far beyond Hermod). I’ve found the Vector Sequencer to be super useful for sequencing virtual instruments and effects in Live since its step sequencing abilities are light years ahead (& Hermod is less useful in that regard since DAW tracks are already piano roll sequencers).

In conclusion, sequencer modules are a land of contrasts

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I love my Hermod but the things it excels at are not straightforward sequencing. I would definitely be frustrated if I used it as my main note/pitch sequencing sequencer. It’s a great, stable and flexible midi to cv, cv to midi to USB host or device converter and the “fx” can set you up to do a lot of things with as tight or Loose of control as you like: quantizing, gate sequencing, random, harmony/chord generation, gate skipping, lfo manipulation, in any combination. It’s almost mis-marketed as a sequencer. I use it with a pyramid and feel very satisfied with the combo.

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