i just got my 1700 (in desert tan! <3 matches my ā€œcamoā€ control cables). are you sure about not needing to cut the top foam? It’s a little hard to close the case…

from the ā€œisms approachā€ video it doesn’t look like @tehn has the top cut. is that how it looks for the system?

Congrats to your case! As I wrote: For me it dependend on the modules I have and the length of their knob caps.

If the knob caps are long, have a foam shop slice the top foam into 2 halves (one being 1 cm thin), cut out the module area of the Isms, and glue the halves together again, like this:

I really missed the boat (sorry) on this, will there ever by any more?

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from what i’ve read, there are no plans for another release of isms in its current iteration. there may be a v2 one day with updated features, but there aren’t any concrete plans as of yet.

would LOVE to see a v2!

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What are the odds another isms or similar system will be sold again?

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as time goes on, the odds get higher. if it happens, it’d be at least a year from now. (but this is of course a loose estimate, the feeling of now related to our respective work loads).

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Just thinking out loud as I would really like one! :slight_smile:

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Posting for a Xmas Miracle. :smiley:

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have there been any updates on the state of a new isms case? i missed out on the first run, but am curious to see what might be coming down the pipeline.

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Just curious about what was in isms that couldn’t be done in, for example, an intellijel 4u skiff or something similar?

vactrol lpg in the 1u comes to mind for me

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Ok, that’s a thing for sure…

But it could be relatively easily substituted, right?

Don’t get me wrong, isms was cool, but if it’s really out of production, one must find an alternative… I’m trying to ponder what that might look like in terms of currently available options…

the intellijel 4u 104hp is the obvious way to at least approach approximation, but that’s been discontinued (and is difficult to find used).

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Intellijel is apparently working on a 1U LPG. :slight_smile:

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You can also DIY a passive LPG easily :slight_smile:
I ā€œhackedā€ an intellijel 1U passive mult in a combo : two tone + DPLPG last week (I can find back the schematics of both if anyone is interested, it really is just a bunch of resistors/diodes/capacitors).

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For 1u stuff I personally make use of the Pulp Logic Tile format, there are a ton of great utilities and John Kennedy makes and ships them quickly.

He makes an nsl-32 vactrol VCA which (I’m not an electrical engineer) I use like an lpg all the time and also sometimes just use it to make lpg-esque envelopes for other tasks.

If one were to try to replicate the functionality of ism in Pulp Logic tiles (which I think would be the way to go as there are more options) here’s what it might look like:

  1. Case: Pulp logic doesn’t make a similar case but they do have have boxes and he’ll also cut rails for you to size, so might require some DIY on that front if you want the box. I’ve ordered several sets of rails from him and experience is good.
  2. USB Switch for grids: probably no dice here. You can use the USB tile to give something power but there isn’t a USB -> CV tile.
  3. 2 channel cv mixer: You could use either one of the three channel slider-based mixers if you can live without cv control, or a collection of VCA tiles, attenuverter tiles, and a sum tile.
  4. Bus: I personally don’t mind long patch cables but you could use the tether Tile for this or maybe hot rod some passive mults together on the underneath.
  5. Attenuating inverter: Attenuverter tile is probably even replacement, though I like the att-off tile with dipswitches for more functionality. Both are great though.
  6. Gate: A combination of NSL-32 VCA and maybe an Att-Off to process the cv signal.
  7. LFO & Noise: Here we’re not going to get very close. Tile options for noise might be from the RND (stepped random voltage), V-Noise (random pulse generator)+Slew (slewing the pulses), or some combination of those things. LFO we can do better though: Cyclic Skew gives you triangles, saw, shark fin, and everything in between, add a Compare (Comparator) for the square wave version.
  8. Input: input part is pretty straightforward—Gain tile with a 1/8 to 1/4 adaptor. The gate and envelope follower might be assembled with a slew tile and a Compare (I haven’t tried that before but I have the pieces and might give it a try for fun, I much prefer Pulp Logic Entry Point eurorack module for this sort of thing and even more the RS-35 which also gives me pitch as cv).
  9. Spring Reverb: Spring Reverb Tile. Has some nice routing so you can process the feedback. Works off tiny cables so if you want RCA you’ll have to attach appropriate cables.
  10. Outputs: Some combination of the Outputs tile (which gives you 1/4 L, R, and headphone out), Mix-A tiles, Sum tiles, or 2180 Tiles with any of the knob Tiles (which send voltage when no cable is in their in holes).

Overall obviously a Pulp Logic Tile system isn’t going to be exact (the pink and white noise would be very much missed), and/or will take up more space. But you might find yourself swapping in other interesting things as well (Breath Controller anyone?). Also goes without saying that it wouldn’t be as pretty. Though I suppose you could order blank aluminum tiles and do your own art. Or even order up your own face plate and remount the tiles to it if you’re super ambitious.

I did this mainly as an exercise to see how close it could get. John Kennedy at PL is pretty open to ideas, I wonder if he would make the pink/white noise tile…

Hope this helped and isn’t too obnoxious.

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Holding out for another Xmas miracle? :slight_smile:

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Also registering curiosity about a return of isms.

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