#41

As I’m waiting for my isms to arrive in Sweden I started to rearrange my other stuff in preparation. One thing popped up that I couldn’t find in the manual: is the outputs balanced or not? The +4 dBu output suggest so but I can’t find any info if it’s TRS or TS connectors.

#42

edit: see post by @Galapagoose below

#43

A little clarification:

Outputs are ‘impedance balanced’ like the Aleph / Mackie mixers. This means the signal is not differential (i.e. true balancing) but the outputs will play nice with TRS cables & balanced inputs if that’s what you use.

Input is actually balanced though! A TS cable will work fine, but a TRS cable (and source) will give you that extra 6dB & noise cancelling especially useful for attaching a microphone directly (though watch out for impedance issues).

It’s all designed to work smoothly with both balanced & unbalanced gear. The only thing that will have weird results is a stereo input cable.

#44

rumor on muffs is Mannequins plans to bring some of the utilities from isms to 3U… don’t have any idea where this info came from but anyone care to comment?

I’ve been building a skiff around the Mannequins modules so this is interesting news to me.

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#45

[quote=“Galapagoose, post:43, topic:2486”]
The only thing that will have weird results is a stereo input cable.
[/quote] Interesting

I’m not sure I would’ve noticed problems but I’m certain I used one (w/ aleph) in the past.

#46

Theoretically it would give you the difference between the two channels, like using a mid/side processor and only keeping the side.

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#47

Sound like it will handle most situations.

Care to share a reference link about the Mackie design? I’m sure it doesn’t matter for me but I want to know more just out of curiosity (the wikipedia pdf link is broken).

UPDATE
I found that Mackie have LOTS of schematics online. I picked one at random and found this:

(I think the picture of the connector is mixed up. I guess the actual signal is connected to the tip and not to ring as the pic shows)

#48

Got my isms this week and I must say I really love it. I could get rid of a couple of modules pretty easy to fit my setup into 120 HP thanks to the built in top row utilities.
But I really want an extra of those short USB cables.
I only got one but I want to use the switch and it looks pretty dumb with a 2 m long cable…
Any recommendations where go get an extra cable that looks the same?

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#49

I’ll send you one, get in touch info@monome.org

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#50

I spent the last night playing with isms and have some questions about it:

The placement of the mixer encourage mixing of control signals. I like it since I tend to avoid that. Any tips or advice on ideas I can try out?

I’m really missing a splitter. I have two active splitters and passive ones are a piece of cake to make. But as one that doesn’t believe in stackable 3,5mm plugs I have a hard time understanding the decision to not include a splitter. What’s the reasoning here?

I know feedback patching is hard. I’m new to spring reverb in Eurorack context. Any tips for simple spring reverb feedback feedback patches ?

#51

isms on eBay. So quick?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Complete-Monome-System-/111998639411?

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#52

doesn’t seem like a very good deal considering a full system is $4700.

#53

You could send 1 or 2 to http://www.schneidersladen.de/de/

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#54

Yeah… Maybe I’m wrong but the starting bid price is more than the retail price of the included parts?! And everything is in-stock / available brand new? Bizarre is all I can say.

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#55

Yes, and now screws…:thinking:

#56

@Galapagoose / @tehn, just noticed that its out of stock on monome.org and at Control, which got me thinking. Will there be further runs of isms or is it going to be more limited, along the lines of the aleph?

Curious because I plan on getting one, but wouldn’t be able to pull the trigger for a few months.

#57

fwiw I’m in the same position as chrisharrisx, but I’m even considering the complete isms system (except not until the end of summer)

#58

I’m so happy that I did import one to Sweden myself. If it’s out of stock in US I think it will take a loong time before it shows up in EU.
Isms was the key for me to bring back Eurorack to an ‘instrument’ focus instead of the “Eurorack as a studio” approach.

#59

i just got my 1700 (in desert tan! <3 matches my “camo” control cables). are you sure about not needing to cut the top foam? It’s a little hard to close the case…

from the “isms approach” video it doesn’t look like @tehn has the top cut. is that how it looks for the system?

#60

Congrats to your case! As I wrote: For me it dependend on the modules I have and the length of their knob caps.

If the knob caps are long, have a foam shop slice the top foam into 2 halves (one being 1 cm thin), cut out the module area of the Isms, and glue the halves together again, like this:

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