Very true.

I got into woodwork a few years ago, and when you look at the materials cost, and work that goes into making a lot of furniture, you realise most stuff is usually priced fairly.

1 Like

Yeah, I have CNC access and ability, and some plywood furniture design/fab experience, and I think the Output pricing is very reasonable.

Sidecar looks pretty neat. It’s probably time for me to get a new desk, and I’m still not sure if the Output design will work for my room, but the Sidecar helps.

Does anyone use 3D modeling software to plan their studio space? I have a large walk in closet that I think would be a good home studio. I’m worried if I just start buying furniture, monitors and outboard gear I’ll regret it unless I have a solid plan.

I’ve used graph paper for planning my desktop set-up because analogue is so much warmer :wink:. My advice would be to overestimate how much space each piece of gear will take up; company-provided dims aren’t going to consider PSUs, etc and those extra inches add up.

3 Likes

In 20 years of doing this, I still haven’t found anything that beats the IKEA Jerker desks from the early 00’s. I bought one back then and have picked up two more for free over the years.

6 Likes

I used sketchup to lay out rooms a few times, it was great. A lot of the IKEA catalog was available to load up from the 3d warehouse, which made the process quick, and it’s pretty easy to block in other furniture to scale. This was 5+ years ago, I’m not sure if sketchup still has the warehouse functionality built in.

1 Like

Speaking of the Output desk, they accidentally sent me TWO keyboard trays. If anyone wants one and will pay shipping (or pick it up in Seattle), you’re welcome to it! :slight_smile:

4 Likes

if you still have it i might be interested! - still trying to decide whether i want platform though.

i do like output sidekick. what other comparable options are out there? basically, a smal rack with a flat top so you can also place a mixer or something else on top. sidekick works but with its 30” height putting xone mixer on top of it would be too high. so something similar but lower.

I like the Platform, but it’s fairly gigantic, so it depends on your room, I guess!

Not sure what else is out there like the Sidekick, without just building something custom. I’m sure you could get someone to build something similar for fairly cheap if you had specific requirements. Output’s stuff is priced fairly, I think, but if you have specific requirements they’re not meeting, then that’s another story.

In that same realm I’ve been developing “Octatrack neck” while standing hunched over my gear table, prepping for a show this week. :stuck_out_tongue:

1 Like

does anybody have experience with jarvis standing desks? i like the clean look but some reviews mention stability issues.

Looking into getting a patchbay, and was curious if anyone had recommendations for some kind of slim rack mount case/shelf thing that I could place on my desk to house it. A cursory Sweetwater search didn’t yield anything simple/affordable. Does such a thing exist?

If you are decently handy, you could probably build your own for about $30. The rack rails are inexpensive and you can make whatever size you want. Otherwise, seems like $100-120 is typical for a 3u size case or shelf.

1 Like

The Sidecar shelf perfectly fits a Norns + Grids + Arc setup. I picked up the Platform as well. Oddly, having more space and a better layout has encouraged me to sell a ton of gear (hence the mostly empty Euro case). It’s a lot easier to think in here now.

2 Likes

I have used one at work for the past 3+ years with no issues.

Thanks for posting pictures of the sidecar. Your pictures make it look taller than their website. Please post more if you have them.

I might pull the trigger on one of these as well!

Well “affordable” means a lot of things to a lot of people. I personally integrated a 6U rack in my Jaspers keyboard rack and it was pretty cheap. Audiorax makes a nice turret-style angled desktop rack which puts controls at a good angle, but honestly I’m not one for putting patchbays on my desktop - the snakes of cables coming from the front are a bit annoying. If space is really a premium, you could just take a few small blocks of wood and screw a single 1U patchbay to the underside of your desk (I did that for quite a long time, it worked perfectly). That way at least the cables have somewhere to hang instead of taking up valuable desk space, and it’s a little more straightforward to patch in stompboxes or other outboard.

But if you’re going to really invest in some rack modules, give ergonomics a thought and figure out what you plan to do. It might make sense getting a turret or a monitor bridge rack for a little more now, in order to have a clean, organized, and ergonomic workspace, and you might still relocate the patchbay itself somewhere a little more convenient for the use case you intend.

Just some thoughts - there’s no right answer and it really comes down to your own needs and budget. A quick google for “desktop angled rack” will turn up solutions ranging from the ugly-but-straightforward open frames to some surprisingly affordable (for studio furniture) bridge and sidecar solutions. And as @bradfromraleigh said, sometimes making your own is really the ticket.

2 Likes

Sure thing! I love it. It’s almost the same height as the Platform (without Platform’s risers installed). So, it’s easy to move my chair between them while developing my module. I finally have a hybrid modular setup with a great workflow between the two stations.

It’s still a bit of a mess. I built them two weeks ago and I’m still getting things sold/organized.

6 Likes

I spent a rainy day here in Berkeley converting a Platform studio desk to sit / stand configuration, using a Jarvis base. This wasn’t too difficult, but did require a couple of careful cuts w/ a circular saw to line up the bottom of the desk surface with the bottom of the risers supporting the shelf.

Honestly I prefer the design in this configuration. I do like the desk, but the angular legs were my least favorite part.

16 Likes

That’s cool! Does the sturdiness hold up alright when you load it with gear and move it up to standing position?

Actually I agree this is from all “useful” standpoints a much better design (looks aside, I love the all wood aspect of the original) but here what I see immediately are :

1 more room for potential speaker stands (I had issues with that)
2 more options for lowering / adding height, typically for speakers height to be perfect and/or being able to have it at just the right height for the keyboard to slide above the legs (had issues with both those things).
3 possibilities to add additionnal furniture where the wood panels were that can extend underneath the main board.

You lose some of the unified / hiding cables aspect but it’s a decent trade off I think. Always amazed at how crafty people are on this forum, I love the result.