#11

What continues to impress me about this device is how it seemingly doesn’t care how many channels of modulation you have running, or at what rate, or, indeed, across how many instances of the device you load. Bit of exaggeration there, of course, but I’ve gone from 1 to 16 parameters mapped at signal rate with lose to negligible impact on CPU. As an early test, I ran 100 channels of modulation across 7 instances of the device and it cost something like 11%-14%.
Will have to revisit if that was a fluke, but the point of course is it’s dead efficient. I mean, hats off to the makers of Live, Max, and the API that lets them talk.

#12

iirc the lfos are using msp signals which might explain cpu load vs this app

in theory one might be able to make a more efficient / less accurate lfo using messages

hospital_food uses messages

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#13

Dang this looks great.

#14

Okay well I just spent about 20 minutes getting familiar with Survey and I’m pretty sure it will be in every Live project I make from now on. A very useful and powerful device. Fantastic work! :slight_smile:

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#15

This is an incredible addition to the already incredible control devices for live. I use the LFO on pretty much everything I create these days. I can see this becoming a big goto device for me too!

Excited to see what else you create and share with us.

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#16

You’re honestly not the first person to tell me that, but it really makes me smile. Enjoy!

#17

Nice! I really love that it lets you take a primary controller (your LFO) and have it have a little influence across a ton of parameters and just one or two critical and really obvious parameters (that you presumably would have applied them to anyway). That ripple effect and “single source of truth” produces a very musical coherence in my experience

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#18

Beautiful interface and super useful. I’m away from the modular and have been using ableton quite a lot lately. This is great (purchased). :grinning:

#19

So great! Thanks a ton !!

#21

This is great! Thanks, @pATCHES! I love that you added the min/max mode, that makes all the difference in the world. Looking forward to creating some evolving patches with this.

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#22

I’ve been using Survey to test some crow m4l hypotheses and I just wanted to pop by and thank @pATCHES for the excellent work! immensely fun and immediately playable, gorgeous visuals and works a treat for modulating the remotes in ^^outs.

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#23

really awesome stuff with survey @pATCHES! A think that would be super cool is if the rectangles that represent the particular value of a step was modulatable. Like if I could map an LFO to this first rectangle that’s highlighted so that could be a “variable” step

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#24

Felt that was so important, one of the biggest shifts I’ve noticed in my own workflow coming back to Live after emerging from the modular rabbit hole.

You might be very interested in https://twitter.com/p_ATCHES/status/1196182362972930050?s=20 and https://twitter.com/p_ATCHES/status/1201582505356353536?s=20 btw :eyes:

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#25

Thanks so much Dan, that’s really amazing to hear! So much of what I’m working on now are just attempts to recapture some of the workflows I fell in love with in the modular world and get them inside of Live. Makes sense these would integrate well, in that sense, or just means I did my job well :slight_smile: Keep me posted on how it goes!

P.S. Big fan of the pod, and also your episode on Darwin’s. Kept hearing eerie overlaps with my own experiences recently, especially parallels with improv. Hope to talk more about it sometime :slight_smile:

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#26

Thanks so much!

Definitely the idea here is to sort of do that (in Stage view), but just for all the mapped channels at once. It’s an interesting idea to have a whole other layer of modulation that can be applied in variable amounts to individual channels at various stages, and quite a challenge to put that all into a comprehensible interface…

Kind of exploring a piece of that as an approach to doing shift register-y modulation in a separate project, as posted earlier – https://twitter.com/p_ATCHES/status/1196182362972930050?s=20 Wonder if there are ways to merge some of these ideas :eyes:

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#27

That sequencer is a cool idea!

I was thinking about it like basically the lowest position of the bar would be 0 and the highest would be 100% (kind of like how the top purple bar works…where the left-most is 0 and the right most is 100%). The device I was thinking of modulating it with was the ableton lfo which has scaling on it’s side:

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I’ve gotten use to scaling and “lining up the parameters” in ableton, but that kind of range view where the scaling happens at the destination rather than the source is definitely easier to see. The overbridge knobs kinda do that in an interesting way.

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Another thing that could be interesting would be a button that you hit to manually page to the next section which could be mappable. I have been having fun with Survey and @dr.katz Strokes today, and I was thinking it’d be cool to like step through the different stages with a euclidean pattern.

Alright done with pestering you with feature requests :sweat_smile: what you’ve made is great fun!

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#28

Actually you know, maybe I’m overthinking this a bit. If you are modulating one of the “stages” that would sort of take over the sequencing aspect for that parameter…so you could just do that “outside” of survey.

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#29

Definitely, thanks for the heads-up! :smile:

Just played around with Survey for a couple of minutes - so far so good! Possibilities seem endless.

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#30

It’s an absolutely wonderful patch. Thanks so much for this.
And it might be THE patch that would make me step into learning javascript for Max. If anyone has advices for someone who barely doesn’t code at all.

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#32

Ah! Also playing around w that kind of thing in upcoming devices, also via twitter https://twitter.com/p_atches/status/1196832864119250944?s=21 and https://twitter.com/p_atches/status/1196833029731344384?s=21 haha

I’ve written your ideas into my update list, will definitely look into how they can be implemented. Very much appreciate the feedback :slight_smile:

I’m reaching “I tweeted a video demo’ing this” overload here, but that’s exactly why i’m trying to make a super comprehensive modulation matrix for Live https://twitter.com/p_atches/status/1203357433122492416?s=21

It like, always has been second or third place to other more pressing matters in and outside of music, but is the thing I think I most want to be working on

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