#22

I’ve been using Survey to test some crow m4l hypotheses and I just wanted to pop by and thank @pATCHES for the excellent work! immensely fun and immediately playable, gorgeous visuals and works a treat for modulating the remotes in ^^outs.

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#23

really awesome stuff with survey @pATCHES! A think that would be super cool is if the rectangles that represent the particular value of a step was modulatable. Like if I could map an LFO to this first rectangle that’s highlighted so that could be a “variable” step

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#24

Felt that was so important, one of the biggest shifts I’ve noticed in my own workflow coming back to Live after emerging from the modular rabbit hole.

You might be very interested in https://twitter.com/p_ATCHES/status/1196182362972930050?s=20 and https://twitter.com/p_ATCHES/status/1201582505356353536?s=20 btw :eyes:

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#25

Thanks so much Dan, that’s really amazing to hear! So much of what I’m working on now are just attempts to recapture some of the workflows I fell in love with in the modular world and get them inside of Live. Makes sense these would integrate well, in that sense, or just means I did my job well :slight_smile: Keep me posted on how it goes!

P.S. Big fan of the pod, and also your episode on Darwin’s. Kept hearing eerie overlaps with my own experiences recently, especially parallels with improv. Hope to talk more about it sometime :slight_smile:

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#26

Thanks so much!

Definitely the idea here is to sort of do that (in Stage view), but just for all the mapped channels at once. It’s an interesting idea to have a whole other layer of modulation that can be applied in variable amounts to individual channels at various stages, and quite a challenge to put that all into a comprehensible interface…

Kind of exploring a piece of that as an approach to doing shift register-y modulation in a separate project, as posted earlier – https://twitter.com/p_ATCHES/status/1196182362972930050?s=20 Wonder if there are ways to merge some of these ideas :eyes:

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#27

That sequencer is a cool idea!

I was thinking about it like basically the lowest position of the bar would be 0 and the highest would be 100% (kind of like how the top purple bar works…where the left-most is 0 and the right most is 100%). The device I was thinking of modulating it with was the ableton lfo which has scaling on it’s side:

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I’ve gotten use to scaling and “lining up the parameters” in ableton, but that kind of range view where the scaling happens at the destination rather than the source is definitely easier to see. The overbridge knobs kinda do that in an interesting way.

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Another thing that could be interesting would be a button that you hit to manually page to the next section which could be mappable. I have been having fun with Survey and @dr.katz Strokes today, and I was thinking it’d be cool to like step through the different stages with a euclidean pattern.

Alright done with pestering you with feature requests :sweat_smile: what you’ve made is great fun!

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#28

Actually you know, maybe I’m overthinking this a bit. If you are modulating one of the “stages” that would sort of take over the sequencing aspect for that parameter…so you could just do that “outside” of survey.

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#29

Definitely, thanks for the heads-up! :smile:

Just played around with Survey for a couple of minutes - so far so good! Possibilities seem endless.

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#30

It’s an absolutely wonderful patch. Thanks so much for this.
And it might be THE patch that would make me step into learning javascript for Max. If anyone has advices for someone who barely doesn’t code at all.

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#32

Ah! Also playing around w that kind of thing in upcoming devices, also via twitter https://twitter.com/p_atches/status/1196832864119250944?s=21 and https://twitter.com/p_atches/status/1196833029731344384?s=21 haha

I’ve written your ideas into my update list, will definitely look into how they can be implemented. Very much appreciate the feedback :slight_smile:

I’m reaching “I tweeted a video demo’ing this” overload here, but that’s exactly why i’m trying to make a super comprehensive modulation matrix for Live https://twitter.com/p_atches/status/1203357433122492416?s=21

It like, always has been second or third place to other more pressing matters in and outside of music, but is the thing I think I most want to be working on

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#33

Awesome, keep me posted on how it goes :slight_smile:

#34

I’ll say the last month or two has seen me finally putting js to work in max and it’s made a world of difference. Darwin’s patch-a-day has terrific examples to follow along with if you’re interested in using it for jsui and interface. Can also volunteer myself as a resource anytime you have questions, here or over my email contact at patches.zone — think a lot of those lessons in getting over blockers are still fresh in my mind and of course happy to share anytime!

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#35

All these ui concepts look great, thanks for sharing!

#36

Thanks! Would you mind pointing me to where to find Darwin’s patch-a-day examples?

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#37

Of course – https://cycling74.com/forums/jsui-mgraphics-patch-a-day

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#38

You just convinced me not to sell my voltage block!

#39

Wow, great device! The intuitive and wonderful looking UI really make it a joy to work with!

Depending on the directions you might want to continue developing this device, I have some patches/devices that might be interesting to you.

I’ve made a couple of devices in the past that are in some ways similar — storing and recalling snapshots of parameter values in Live — but focussed more on placing the preset-snapshots in a 2 or 3-dimensional space and then smoothly interpolating between them, using Mira or Roli block as input —though you could also use a trackpad or even a simple pictslider.

If you think you might be interested in developing your device in that direction, I’d be more than happy to share my stuff with you (for inspiration and/or re-use of parts of the patcher logic). Everything works flawlessly, but the look and feel aren’t nearly as nice and clean as what you’ve made, and I don’t really have the time to get it to that level.

#40

I have no idea where this belongs…

Just spotted Cycling74 spreading the word with the video below about crow and survey :heart:.
Kudos to everyone involved!

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#41

This was so cool to see, so many of the projects I love getting played with my little device as a component. Quite humbled. It’s no coincidence the device and Cold Mac knob have the same name :wink:

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#42

I am so loving your devices. Here’s mt.sev sequencing Rings/Pluck and a Disting EX, with survey handling parameter automation and scenery playing a field recording. Just great work on these. mt.sev is one of my goto sequencers in the box.

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