Do you think it is possible to get pages running on MacOs Mojave with Ableton10 ?

hi there, yes, i’m still using pages 2 on latest mac os, no problems at all
i’m using it mainly to control my liveset on ableton, with quadrants pages, mixing clip launchers, faders, keyboards, triggers, and as external apps i’m only using a 256 version of obo these days, nothing really fancy at first glance, but working extremely well on my side, since I have my live setup built around it.
Pages has a lot of potential itself, with midi controllers of all kind, pattern recorders for every control, step sequencers, bad thing is the way we used to map external apps is pretty obsolete with latest versions.
And a big shame for me was not to have a 64 bit version of Molar

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Thanks for the input @pauk ! Yes I saw a video of one of your live performances at Sonar2017. Absolutely stunning how you take control via 256 and Arc.

What do you mean with “quadrants pages”? Do you mean quadrants via ext. app page or some built in page? I could not find any “quadrants page” in the latest version…

For all of you who missed the video, it’s really worth a watch:

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pages is really neat if you use ableton, if you use build15 of markeats seq it works fine with pages 2.
http://www.markeats.com/sequencer/faq.html#question-03

as pauk says though, the autoconfig doesn’t work through pages, but in a live situation i prefer pages as it’s harder to know which channel you’re on in ableton than simply switch directly on the monome (i don’t use a display). m4l patches can be converted back to static ports fairly easily as well (to be used in pages).

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Thank you for the Link! This is really helpful and I didn’t know this tutorial existed.
I’ll try to dig my way through all of this and get back as soon as I have specific questions.

I really agree with your statement to pefer smth like pages / switching app directly via the grid, compared to being disorientated finding your channels in the Ableton Live window and since I will mainly be performing poems I think a display would equally be distractive.

Since my idea is building my performance setup from the ground up using Ableton, all your input is very helpful.

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hi kza, yes pages 2 has a built in page called quadrants where you can load 4 different pages/apps :+1:

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on a tangential note: are people having problems with app switching on the gridlab apps ? it’s been all over the place for me but I’m also not using a varibright like it’s made for

All is good with gridlab for me. Thanks @stretta for this amazing work!

Couldn’t find a good solution at that time and now I don’t own a grid anymore … hope you find what you need.

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Does anybody see a possibility to split a 256 and run ‘control’ by @ithkaa in the upper half and various (track focused) terms-apps in the lower half?

– A love letter to PAGES –

Almost a year since my initial question and I thought it might be worth getting back to it. I assume there are some rookies like me out there still interested in splitting their grid but not able to do it or confused by the whole setup process.

I spent the last days in a residency with @pauk in Madrid. Since he always used @phortran pages to make his 256 the controlling hub of his setup (no matter if laptop or modular synth) I asked for his help setting it up and here comes the motivational part: I am on a Macbook Pro 2018 and it works (not with variable brightness but well… I don’t need this).

I highly encourage people to try it out. It might be kinda oldish and Java without a fancy design UI but it’s a monster. @pauk works with midi trigger pages, midi loopers, step sequencers, fader pages, clip or scene launchers and even pages for the Arc where the switching is controlled by the grid. Some examples he got working with external application pages: Raptor, Flin, Obo, Polygome, Press Café etc.

It would be so great to have pages updated and future proof.
Thank you @phortran and thank you @pauk ! The possibilities are still mind blowing.

https://vimeo.com/64945811

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I allheartedly agree and wish I could code this but it’s wayyy above anything I could acheive.

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Hi, Is it possible to use software to split a 128 into a 64 on the left and a 64 on the right?

It would be cool to run both a clip selector (a la Push) and a Maxforlive app like Anaphora simultaneously off one controller.

So reading up in this thread it seems that Quadrants could do what I want. Is this correct? Are there limits to which max patches it will support in Ableton on my MacBook?

Yes it is, this is the idea of the quadrants-page. split a 128 in two 64 or a 256 in two 128s or 4 64s. Still Ia am struggling with connecting M4L apps because some takeover control and disconnect my grid.

Yes there seem to be limits but I don’t understand them. Some M4L apps work, some don’t. Sometimes it’s a version of an M4L app that works while another version of the same app does not. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

My pages-mentor is @pauk who tried to solve my incapability of problem-solving it myself :slight_smile:

Thanks. I would love a solution to this.

Yeah me too. I really think there should be one up to date standard app for spliiting grids and connetcting multiple M4L applications. I wish I was a programmer but well… I’m not. We talked to @phortran but he won’t update/remake pages. I tried to motivate the forum by saying that I would pay for such an app but sadly there is noone for this task.

I would also pay for a pages revamp of some sort.

Does anyone have pages working on a windows machine?

I’ve made the transition to windows and I’m having trouble getting serialosc to behave. I can get an app like re:mix to run, but I can’t get hot plugging to work. Also, the serialosc drop down that displays connected grid devices never clears. It just adds another grid of the same name to the drop down. Even when I turn off my computer, serialosc holds the list of every time I previously connected monomes.

Also, a new step by step installation guide would be very useful. I’d be happy to make one for the windows 10 side of things if I can get a stable setup going.

Also, also, dj64fx is very fun with pages pattern recorders.

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I think it would be so beautiful and important to have a new app with the functionality of @phortran pages and the modern UI and ease of use of @ithkaa control app. Imagine this plus a thoughtfully structured and beautifully designed step by step guide as the community showed with a lot of recent app-manuals (i.e. @dan_derks cheat codes.). As I almost exclusively work with the Laptop this would be…well… I’m just dreaming a little :slight_smile:

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