May I ask how you expand pattern length and still be able to keep the grid resolution? Thanks

https://www.teenageengineering.com/guides/op-z/track#step-length < I think this is the part of the manual that explains it. I can’t speak to resolution, just that it gives me up to four measures, maybe 8? Instead of just the one 16-step measure.

Looks like the MoMA store has more in stock if anyone is looking in the US.

1 Like

interestingly on the moma store they are still advertising the old battery life…

Battery life: Four times back and forth across the Atlantic Ocean

wonder if anything close to that is achievable via software update.

I think they just didn’t update the ā€œcould change on the final productā€ specs. It’s pretty clear here https://support.teenage.engineering/hc/en-us/articles/360011586773-how-long-is-the-OP-Z-battery-life- and already seems slightly improved over the 4h reported if true.

PS: it’s the Moma after all and this kind of dreaming-out-loud-about-specs-we-cant-garanty-but-hey-people-buy-it-before-you-can-make-sure-of-that is definitely a heavily practiced form of modern art.

i agree it’s unlikely, it just seems odd to advertise such a brazen lie. which of corse got me googling the fastest transatlantic flight times. if you took it easy on the op-z, you potentially could get 3 trans atlantic flights in on a single charge, as long as you were flying on a british airways concorde in 1996.

4 Likes

Time machine module to be added? Or do you think it’s doable with a firmware update! ^^

1 Like

Ha ha.
That’s like a ā€œpost truthā€ justification…
Alternative (fact) product specs?

11 Likes

I can testify it can last even longer than that if powered off.

10 Likes

I, for one, fear the Museum-Industrial Complex — a theft from those who hunger for new music and are not fed.

9 Likes

There’s a firmware update out:
ā€œreduced cpu consumption, improves battery life by 5-10%ā€

Lots of other bug fixes.

https://teenage.engineering/downloads/op-z

2 Likes

I’m looking to use the op-z as basically a super nice midi sequence for a modular rig so this is super helpful. I’m wondering though — my intention is to use it as a midi-in to a eurorack, then make lots of noise inside the rack, and then pipe midi out to something like Unity (not using op-z built in Unity stuff).

My current thought for this is OP-Z to FH-2 to MODULES, then to something like a trig31 to do CV/Midi to then hook up to a computer. However in doing more digging I found the Hermod and I’m wondering if that single module can act as both the in and the out. OP-Z in though one of the USB ports, and then USB out to a PC/OSX machine with midi signal for controlling visuals.

However, if I’m using the Midi-in to pipe OP-Z to the rest of the modular, can I use the Hermod cv/gate inputs to also act as midi-out? This may be a better fit for a dedicated Hermod thread, but happy to hear opinions/thoughts here as well.

You probably have a reason for using a laptop, but if what you’re planning for unity will work through the opz ios app, then it works really easy with the direct midi connect to modular and bluetooth midi to drive unity. I’m doing that now and happy with the result.

I recognize the convenience of the OP-Z + Unity integration for sure, but I’m not interested in this setup to leverage that. Mainly because my plan is that the Midi in gets retimed, chopped, scrambled, etc., and I want to grabbed audio-synced timed CV from the ā€œendā€ sequence to push to a computer (Unity is just one option, doing Processing, etc. would also be possible). I also totally plan to use op-z + unity by itself, but this is for something different.

2 Likes

Not sure if this is helpful, but endorphin.es shuttle control can send midi from device thru to the host (or vice versa). E.g., I can send midi from a korg nanokontrol to the shuttle control, and the ipad attached to the host port of the shuttle can also receive the midi messages.

edit: I see that maybe you don’t want a straight copy of the midi messages, in that case disregard the post above.

What’s the reverb like on this, please tell me it’s a room/hall rather than a spring.

There is something about spring reverbs that always grates with me… the reverb on the OP-1 always makes me a bit sad…

1 Like

Unfortuately it is spring, i’m waiting as well for another type since i don’t really enjoy spring ones either.

Edit: anyways, this little machine is incredible! It’s maybe my best bought since my first monome, it keeps me focus on making music and enjoying the process

2 Likes

I feel like it sounds less bad than the op-1 verb

1 Like

Well I guess it’s best to get the disappointments out of the way as soon as possible.

We’re going on holiday next year, and I can really see myself picking up one of these before we go1. The OP-1 is portable enough that I’ll tote it round the house, but it’s still too heavy/bulky for me to what to sling it in a backpack.


1 Or months before given how what the availability/demand will be like