On the dedicated facebook group a beta tester posted a jam with both the OPs using this one. I have yet to buy one but I will report back!

Has anybody tried this with Mutable Yarns???

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On the MIDI controller front i’ve tried using the OP-Z to directly control a Deckard’s Dream and in the modular with an FH-2 — both with no issue and no settings adjustments.

But tried using it with my OPLAB and it seems to frekout — with the OPLAB quickly blinking the led on either USB port I plug it into and no response from any of the OP-Z’s buttons.

Any thoughts from anyone who may have tried an OP-Z/OPLAB combo?

I don’t have the oplab but I bet they’re both trying to be USB host. There’s a setting in the USB section of the OPZ manual about setting host v. not host.

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@andrewhuang’s video was insightful and charming, as always.

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I haven’t tested the configuration extensively yet, but my OP-Z seems to work with sending MIDI to norns, ansible, and trilogy earthsea. :grinning:

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It was on setting 0, with the USB port the OP-Z was plugged into sending to all the other outputs.

I plugged in another midi controller on the same USB port to see if it was just an OPLAB issue and it worked fine, so only an issue when the OP-Z was plugged in.

And double checked that the OP-Z still worked fine as a midi controller when plugged directly into the FH-2 and my Decards Dream.

Can also confirm I’m externally powering the OPLAB when I have the issue.

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I wonder how much of the screenless UI is Teenage Engineering once again being way out ahead of a design curve that has only just started to manifest, and for which they’ll get consensus praise for in the coming years:

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Another bring your own screen, Pixii camera.

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it’s funny - so far this has been framed as BYOS (bring your own screen), implying that you should definitely take advantage of that phone screen you have in your pocket, but given how much of the industry is starting to grow weary of yet more devices where we crane our necks to gaze into screens for hours all day, and how little of that information firehose is actually necessary when you get down to it, and given the dopamine feedback loops screens are trapping us in, maybe the unspoken non-consumer-friendly message is more like ā€œbring your own screen if you absolutely can’t bear to interact with a thing without using a screen as a crutch, we’re offering this as an intermediary solution to the screen-addicted but we don’t recommend it. really, we spent a lot of time designing a beautiful screen-less experience as the primary use case and way forward, try it outā€

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plus, like, you can go to a forest with this little dude and actually look around at / be part of nature instead of being tempted to look at the pixels dancing around the screen or whatever, as if you’re an easily distracted house cat

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I loved my OP1 but sold it because I wanted screens out of my music making experience so the Z is intriguing. Between work, school, and video games I already get enough screen time!

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wait, you mean to tell me, I’m not?

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Squirrel!

dashes off

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maybe, but also maybe there’s a meaningful distinction to be drawn between the screens of devices built for consumption and devices built for creation.

the OP-1 screen doesn’t quality to me as just another screen that we crane our necks down at. it not only adds to the interaction experience, it also becomes a way for the device to have a personality that it wouldn’t otherwise have. I feel the same way about norns’ screen.

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Ok, this shows me no screen necessary.

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And this…

I’ve only used mine with the screen when setting up midi, otherwise I don’t need it at all

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This is brilliant. Are you recording into a DAW? post processing?

Sorry didn’t mean to give the impression this was myself in the video. Just showing another example of skillfully using the unit without a screen. I’d leave a comment on his youtube channel, thanks!

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First impressions: finally got from USPS, iPod touch is too old to run app, kind of bummed out about it, had a free moment this morning before work, grouchily fiddled around with it expecting frustration and wanting to sell it right away, and had my mind blown. 30 minutes later, where has the time gone?

I was certain I’d need the screen to make sense of it, I don’t do well with menus, layers, etc, but it’s really intuitive and put together well. I was able to figure out pretty quickly how to change patterns, expand pattern length, etc. Still anyone’s guess as to what the different parameter pages do for the synths but theres that handy quickstart printout that I’ll unfold when I have more space in front of me (in my car at the moment).

A) I love it as a toy. Very portable, immediately satisfying. Could see someone with more patience than I programming something quite nice on it.
B) I hope those expanders come soon, want that CV control without needing the hermod, expert sleepers, yarns etc. My keystep stays for now.

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