#56

left rendering is absolutely perfect. super elegant. thank you!

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#57

These all look really great! My vote is for Figure 3: D.

EDIT:
Should have finished reading the thread before posting! My new and improved vote is for highlighted values. :smiley:

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#58

Suggestions on a toggle keystroke? I’m penciling in CTRL-D for “debug”, but it could be a number of things.

#59

ctrl-d is already taken by “delete forward”.

You can see all the keybindings here: https://monome.org/docs/modular/teletype/manual/#keys

I would go with alt-something as that is more in keeping with the other bindings (ctrl is mainly used for text editing). It would also be nice, but not essential if it didn’t clash with an existing ctrl binding, but I’m unsure what would be best, alt-l or alt-q?

edit: the ~ key is free at the moment. Or is that “too soon™”.

Might also be nice to coordinate with @scanner_darkly and his grid display for the keystroke.

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#61

I like this idea.

Just to be clear: this is to toggle between “live” monitoring and “static” display?
Or to have the Variable monitoring table visible/not visible?
Other?

#62

Alright, the feature is complete. Toggle key is tilde, defaults to off.

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#63

Incredible!

I am totally blown away.

It’s a weird feeling for me, having built these image files just yesterday to see it in the interface just few hours later.

So, you decided to skip the vertical rules?

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#64

Well, I haven’t added them in yet as I was waiting for concensus due to @tehn’s stated preference. I can certainly add them if there’s call for it!

#65

Nice one!

Something interesting to consider… using brightness to indicate how recently the value was changed. Either high brightness for a second or so on update. Or decreasing the brightness by 1 level each second to a baseline value.

I’m assuming that variable update sets a dirty flag/bit? If so, the difficulty is adding a timer to that design elegantly and without compromising anything else.

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#66

Yup.

No need to add a new timer, the display routine is already called regularly. Just need to add a count/compare.

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#67

So it is. I’m being daft. It’s just the dirty status that is “on demand”.

#68

I think he meant that he liked the left one with the vertical rules. But I am not sure. I think it looks great either way.

That’s an interesting idea that certainly adds a layer of information to the screen without having to add any new graphic elements. Is similar strategy implemented anywhere else in the TT environment? I am asking because it is adding a new design “gesture” which may or may not fit the overall TT graphic gestalt.

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#69

I thought he confused left and right and meant to say that he liked right-justification. :man_shrugging:

#70

It isn’t used anywhere as far as I know.

If it’s an easy thing to code up, seeing a video might help with determining if it’s a good fit. I’m wondering if it may add a certain rhythmical flavour to the display.

Another candidate for something similar would be the metro icon changing brightness in time with the metro. We’d have to check if there were any performance issues with that though (less an issue for the variable monitoring as it can be turned off).

#71

Performance hit will be proportional to the number of brightness levels and inversely proportional to the decay time.

Also, it will be no more than changing a variable value every screen update.

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#72

If it’s an easy thing to code, I would like to see a video of “flashing” the value when it’s updated. How long the flash should last is probably easier determined by fiddling with the value.

Performance-wise, that was more aimed at trying something similar with the metro icon. Updating the screen before and after running the metro script might knock off the timing a bit (not that it’s that great at the moment anyway).

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#73

I suppose it would. Though the changing numbers would already have similar dynamic.
In any case: the thing that appeals most to me about it, is the fact that there is an actual informational/data display value to it, and that it’s not simply esthetic.

#74

Here’s the branch if anyone wants to take a peek at the implementation: https://github.com/burnsauce/teletype/commit/3ef02dedf5e712f812f43207e07253c12119f15f

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#75

Ha ha! I suppose we should wait for some clarification from @tehn himself then?
:slight_smile:

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#76

@scanner_darkly could probably add alt-~ to toggle the grid display too.