#20

[quote=“Larrea, post:19, topic:3416”]
I utterly accept that Teletype is brilliant…but I’m succumbing to this growing sense of foreboding. I’m not sure I want to invest in something that I won’t properly exploit.
[/quote]you might not need it right now
frankly you might never need it to make the kind of music you want

there is a real level of immediacy when a bit of text spits out cv and i think most will appreciate that right away…the deeper possibilities using it as source for composed data generation and complex modulation take time

length of time to round that curve will vary (for me it was 5-6 months)
so only you can decide whether the wait will be worth it

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#21

to further explain: it’s not that i’m overwhelmed by the environment itself. it’s beautifully simple. what overwhelms me is the sense that i’ve got years of discovery ahead.

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#22

Thank you both.

I’m not sure I’m reassured, although I don’t know what I expected.

I suppose the prudent thing to do would be to actually find one and try it and see how I get on with it. But that’s not so easy.

My tendency is towards more immediate, un-composed or un-sequenced work; lots of fiddling, patching, re-patching, and a fair amount of generative stuff, with a strong dose of randomness/accidental stuff happening. I don’t know if that predisposes me to Teletype’s way of working, or pushes against it.

So hard to explain process anyway, huh?

#23

It’s really hard to know what to say here.

I’m leaning towards “you should try it, you’ll probably like it.” The typing is really minimal. You simply can’t type much. Scripts are 6 lines long, and each line is just a few characters long.

It’s not the amount of typing so much as the unique syntax. You’ll have to have a cheat sheet available for a while. I’m still in that phase. I’m pretty confident that I’m not going to need the cheat sheet any more eventually, with enough use.

I can’t think of any other way to so quickly and directly get such precise control of CV and timing in Eurorack. So, I think it’s worth the effort of learning the syntax.

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#24

Go for it. You can meander, browse, frolick, and gallop at will. You can randomly script as you need, or careful distill magic into a few refrains.

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#25

it’s hard to describe because it’s so open ended. so the immediacy of use depends on what you use it for. it really excels as a complex event processor / generator - say, if you’re patching and you think “on this trigger i want to output 3 pulses on trigger output 1, generate a random voltage on CV output 3 and change CV output 4 to 5v” this is amazingly easy to do with teletype and is likely much faster then trying to patch the same thing with actual modules, even if you have to consult with the teletype reference (and remember you have that reference available to you at any time on teletype itself!). and because it’s easy to modify scripts it invites you to experiment and introduce complexity naturally, “what if i modify the script to only execute when input 2 is high” etc etc.

this also means it’s incredibly useful when you need to generate complex event sequences for other purposes such as getting other modules into a specific state. you could have it serve as a preset management system for modules that don’t store their state, or for multiple modules (especially if you include trilogy/ansible since they can be controlled via the remote commands).

and it’s useful as a utility module for simple tasks too, like gate/trigger conversion, for instance. and since you can store/recall scripts you can easily switch between these multiple roles.

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#26

Wait. What? How do i do this??!

#27

press F1 and then use up and down arrows to scroll and [ ] to switch between the pages.

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#28

This was brilliantly helpful.

I’m sold (again).

EDIT: oh, and the comment about onboard help: I had no idea. That is gigantic.

Thank you.

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#29

I can’t believe I never knew this. Mind blown!

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#30

… and with 2 teletypes you can have help open on one of them while you’re working on the other one :slight_smile:

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#31

shockingly good news
has that always been the case?

i used to just have the pdf open on my phone

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#32

since v1.1 - just checked and it’s not in the documentation, and now i don’t remember how i discovered it, probably by accident or reading the source code.

another undocumented feature - in the tracker mode pressing CTRL will store the knob position (scaled to 0…31 range) into the currently selected value.

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#33

oh dang that’s a cool trick!

#34

uhh wow

i recommend they both be added to the key map or other docs

#35

Thanks for the tip! Had no idea about this either… You mentioned earlier you hoped to start working on an alternative firmware… Out of curiosity, was that for the teletype?

#36

i do have an idea of an alternative firmware for teletype but it’ll be likely months before i even start working on it - need to work on a couple of other things first!

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#37

Quick spec request (don’t want to start new thread):

Can someone tell me the dimensions of the Teletype USB keyboard; W/D/H?

I checked on monome.org, didn’t see it.

#38

I think it’s this:

The product dimensions there are I think not right though. Mine measures more like 4.75" x 11.15" x .75". (Maybe they’re describing the box?)

#39

Thank you!

I hoped someone could provide actual measurements. Perfect.

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