#465

to answer your initial question - buying TT for JT isn’t crazy, but you’re almost definitely going to end up using it for lots of other stuff.

i’m in a similar boat, but reversed! 7u x 84hp, roughly 75% full. i was attracted to TT first because of how many different functions it could pack into my system (particularly sequencing, random, s&h, and JT once i got JF), but i was also a little wary of all the coding. i got JF roughly 6 months after TT and i’m glad i had time to learn the ropes before leveling up. the learning curve with TT is steep, but after you’ve done the studies once or twice and start coming up with ideas on your own, the functions start to stick in your mind. i definitely don’t fully understand a lot of stuff going on in the code exchange threads yet, but i know enough for TT to be a capable brain for my system.

it’s definitely less hands-on than either module, but for what it’s worth TT can definitely perform the functions of both marbles and rene.

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#466

Ah that does remind me, there was a learning hump for me personally, in which it felt more natural to use an “immediate” sequencer, and it took me putting other sequencers away for a bit to get comfortable and really start to gel with the teletype. In the sense of diving into it, it does require an investment to learn (at least it did for me personally)

#467

Thanks for all the info! I definitely expect that there would be a learning curve which I’m totally okay with.

I think now what I need to figure out is whether I want to try out the coding approach via JT or go with Grid/Ansible which is equally appealing. Lots to think about.

#468

I may be a little bonkers, but I’ve ended up with both. In fact, if you don’t mind giving up several scripts for small plumbing (JF.NOTE KR.CV 1 V 5), you can get Kria to play Just Type!

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#469

Couple quick questions - is there any difference in hardware between TT revisions? I noticed that the website said the newest edition would be shipping out starting at the beginning of this month, but I’m assuming that just means it’s loaded with the new firmware.

And if I wanted to bring in Ansible & Grid (running polyearthsea with JF), would I need any additional hardware besides an additional i2c cable to interface the three of them?

Lastly, and this is unrelated to TT, but what is the newest revision of Grid that’s fully compatible with Ansible? I’ve seen a handful of older ones for sale that mention not working with Ansible but I’m not sure what that’s about.

Thanks again for any info!

#470

the latest Teletype has mildly different hardware, so that plugging Grid directly into the latest Teletype doesn’t freak Teletype out. I think there might be another small improvement that I’m forgetting. The front panel and operation remain the same. Funny that you should mention firmware – unless something’s changed, Teletype is deliberately shipped with an older firmware to help ease you into learning a massively deep module.

That’s correct. My setup includes a DIY i2c cable with 4 headers to plug into the different i2c modules in my rack.

What you’re hoping for is a “varibright” grid with 128 buttons and 16 levels of brightness. 16-step brightness seems to have been the standard since 2012.

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#471

The other hardware improvement is built in pull-ups for the I2C bus, so no backpack needed.

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#472

I just got a new TT and it shipped with 3.0.

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#473

to clarify, you can plug grid directly into older versions of teletype too as long as you keep the number of lit LEDs low (and if it exceeds what it can handle it’ll freeze but you can just power cycle and it’ll be fine). but yeah, you don’t need to worry about it with the latest edition!

i don’t think it’s deliberate :slight_smile: it just ships with whatever happens to be the latest official release at the time.

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#474

Just ordered TT a few hours ago. I’ll probably hold off on ansible/grid for a bit so I can dive into JT but I’m super excited!

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#475

ahhhh, my mistake. My Teletype must have shipped to its dealer awhile ago, however, since I got it with 1.2

#476

wow, that’s an oldie! real vintage teletype… :slight_smile:
and if it looks like this you’ve got a 15 model!

typing-unit

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#477

Another newbie question.

Since teletype goes from 0 - 10V, does that mean it can only go up in scale?
What would be standard practice when tuning VCOs If you want to go up and down from root note?

#478

I’m used to pitch CVs that are unipolar, from sequencers and MIDI-CV converters. Some VCOs don’t accept negative voltages anyway.

To be honest, I tend to tune my first VCO wherever it sounds good with whatever CV source I’m using, and then I tune any other VCOs to that (usually by ear). If I’m going to work with softsynths or other instruments, either I’ll retune to a scope or do my best to transpose whatever is most easily transposed :wink:

#479

Tune your oscillator one or two octaves lower than you expect at first, then offset them appropriately with your sequencer. For Teletype you can use the CV.OFF operator to push your CV up to 1v or 2v before you start composing, then swing it down to 0v whenever you like.

(assuming you are using an oscillator designed for v/Oct tracking)

#480

In addition to both of those great solutions:

  • TELEXo is bipolar -10v to 10v (I’m waiting to order one)
  • Add an external negative offset to TT cv out in a precision adder
#481

I have a question about the expected behaviour of the TT CV Offset command. If I run the following, I would expect the net CV out to be +1V.

CV.OFF 2 V 2
CV 2 V -1

Instead the CV op will ignore all negative voltages and I get +2V.

Running the following works:

CV.OFF 2 V2
CV 2 V 1

CV 2 displays +3V.

I currently run the following to circumvent the above behaviour with added negative voltages, but it would be nice to put the offset in the INIT script and save some script line characters.

CV 2 + V 2 V 1

Did I miss something?

#482

What about subtraction?

CV.OFF 2 V 2
CV 2 SUB CV 2 V 1

#483

You can’t send a negative voltage to CV 1 because it is not a bipolar output (even though you expect the net result to be positive). Apply the OFFSET afterwards instead.

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#484

AHhhh! I had it backwards.

so like this:

CV 2 V 2
CV.OFF 2 V -1

or

#I
CV 2 V 2

#1
CV.OFF 2 V -1

Gives me +1V

So in my INIT I can set CV 2 to V2. and then in my script I use CV.OFF to apply negative voltage. Thanks.

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