#362

Didn’t see it mentioned yet but the new Erica Synths Zen Delay sounds great and seems to be super “playable”.

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#363

is there a valid alternative out there for Chase Bliss Thermae in terms of pitch shifting/wobble delay? looking for something stereo, don’t care if it pedal or eurorack. Myabe something on er301 too?

#364

It may sound silly but i have a sweet spot for the delay found in the Electribe Es1. Its a simple digital delay, with two parameters: amount/feedback and time. Very clean, doesnt go into self osc. I use it for shuffling my beats and making sort of glitch sound.
You can see in the picture that i have use the hell out of it, lol.

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#365

That’s interesting! I have an old ESX-1 somewhere, maybe I’ll pull that out again and give it a listen. I imagine it’s probably pretty similar to the ES-1 if not the same. Love the wear on that picture, hah.

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#366

An oldie, but goodie: ArcDev ET301, which is an emulation of the Boss DM300 bucket brigade rack.

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Freeware, but not sure it ever got updated to 64bit so might not work for everyone.

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#367

Perhaps Time Party for Norns might do the trick for Thermae style sequenced delays?

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#368

I loved that one… it was the number one reason why I resisted switching to a 64-bit VST host for so long.

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#369

Not at all sure if the delays on the ESX and EMX are the same, but I like using both and the comb filters on weird noise box oscillators run through the external inputs of both and then sequenced into something rather Coilish.

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#370

It’s a good review. I have recently got the Zen Delay - took the plunge on pre-order. Still getting to really know it - didn’t immediately love it as much as I’d hoped but I knew it would take time and this review has given me a few ideas.

I have a Boss RE-20 and a El-Capistan - both have their good points but the RE-20 was a bit too harsh at times, and the El-Capistan a bit too tame perhaps and a bit awkward as performance tool (though I love the subtle tape age emulation feature). I’m yet to try out more of a side by side comparison to see how they compare as performance tools but this maybe something I’ll dig into in coming weeks.

One thing that Stimming doesn’t mention is that you can also feed it a clock - the CTRL input is a TRS plug and can take dual footswitch inputs, one for Bypass, as he mentions, and the other for Tap tempo. I used a TRS to 2xTS splitter cable and plugged the output of a Pamela’s New Workout into one of the TS inputs (feeding the Tip of the TRS CTRL input as far as I recall), and straightaway got control of the delay time. Best used with the digital delay modes.

I like the tube distortion on things like kick drums but not so much on other material. The filter is a lot of fun.

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#371

Can anyone recommend me a delay, preferably hardware but open to software, that would mimic the manual momentary slowing down of the tape in a tape delay? I’m trying to go for something like Nils Frahm does by manipulating the tape in his re-501, which results in wobbles but returns the delay time back to the original setting. Tape delays are out of my budget and I suppose I could get by with wiggling the delay time knob but it’s very difficult to return it exactly to the original delay time setting.

#372

I mentioned above in this thread, but I’ve achieved something similar with a Boss DD7, by sending a constant clock pulse into the tap temp/expression input.

You can live tweak the delay time knob to get warbles (subtle or intense, depending on how drastic the tweak!), and it will sync right back up to the clock pulse after turning the knob, while leaving warbled delays in the feedback path. I’m sure you can get some similar results with any pedal with tap in + a clock source! Maybe not the exact sound you’re after, but still very fun.

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#373

The DOD Rubberneck? The rubberneck feature can be configured to either slow down or speed up the delay, with a lot of modulation. When you release it goes back to normal

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#374

Totally forgot about the rubberneck, thanks for the reminder. I’ll look into it. Also, the tap tempo trick is a brilliant idea, I’ll have to look into that for sure! It might not be exactly what I’m looking for, as I’d prefer the warbles not to remain in the feedback, but who knows, maybe I do! :slight_smile:
Thanks!

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#375

Oh id never heard of this pedal. Very interesting.

#376

The character of the sound is completely different but Eventide PitchFactor does all of this and more.

#377

Thanks for that perspective. I’m curious to how it compares to something like a Strymon Dig or some other digital delay - I particularly like the looping aspect with the time stretching in digital mode which doesn’t overly degrade the signal.

#378

This tap tempo trick is really intriguing me. Can you point me to any audio or video examples of how this sounds and works? Unfortunately I don’t have any tap tempo pedals right now. Makes total sense though and seems like the functionality I’m looking for!

#379

Would you mind sharing your technique for doing that with the PF? It’s been a long time since I’ve programmed a new patch on mine!

#380

You might also be able to do this using the Robots on Bastl Thyme. I’ll try it out next time I’m using mine.

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#381

The harpeggiator and synthtonizer algorithms come very close to different aspects of the thermae. If you connect either an expression pedal or CV from a modulation source and apply it to the delay times of either (within a very attenuated modulation range), you can get the wobble also.

The pitchfactor is never going to have a wooly sound of a BBD, but my personal preference is for digital delays.

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