Have you tried the Fairfield Meet Maude?

I think you would like it. It is the most ‘analogue’ of all the BBD delays I’ve owned (lovely dark, murky repeats).

It also has CV (you can select whether CV controls time, feedback or both).

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I am very interested in replacing my memoryman Xo - gorgeous as it is - with something more interesting.

Can this handle a line level signal without having to ramp it? I like the level control in the mm for this purpose. Is it only dark or can it be bright(er…than other bbd delays)?

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I think Meet Maude is outfitted to accept an instrument level signal. The Shallow Water has a jumper inside that alters it’s gain stage (allowing for line level), but I don’t think that’s the case here. I have one on the way, and can report back if I find differently.

Regarding the tone, I’ve heard that it “starts dark and gets darker”.

I did discover that the CV input can be used as a send/return by flipping some dip switches inside. Very excited about this.

If you are looking for something more interesting than your memory man, but perhaps not as wild as Meet Maude, maybe check out the Tonal Recall?

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Can anyone recommend a vst for bucket-brigade style delays? I’d love to have a play around with one but the hardware and software delays I have all seem to be clean digital or tape emulation.

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Valhalla Delay and Soundtoys Echoboy are both fantastic!

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Oh of course, I forgot about Valhalla. I’ll try that, thanks!

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Honestly it’s also the best for most other delay styles in vst, this plugin became my go to delay in just two days of using it and testing its various settings.

There’s this, which I haven’t tried but their stuff is highly rated:

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Valhalla Delay is my favorite BBD style delay in software form, but Colour Copy is pretty nice too, and Replika XT.

Ratshack Reverb is pretty good at the specific sound of the Realistic 32-110 Electronic Reverb (which was really a BBD delay).

Nothing I’ve tried sounds like the Doepfer BBDs without a filter or compander, and with clock ranges that can go way lower than is sane for the chips in question though :grin:

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I have not tried it, but I have heard of it and I am pretty sure I would like it. It seems similar to the MF Delay with the added bonus of being configurable to have an effects loop, and it’s cool that it has the option of adding a compressor on the signal going into the feedback line, plus random modulation is also dope. No drive, but I can certainly get that elsewhere. They run a little more than the MF Delay, but its worth considering.

Fair point, but they sound unbelievably good! A very unique sound for sure. I’m strictly a studio noodler so it doesn’t really bother me :stuck_out_tongue:

One plugin I haven’t seen mentioned yet is the NI Replika XT. Tons of options there. I have trouble deciding whether to go with the Echo Boy or the Replika when I want to work in the box.

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I always enjoy Dubmachines by Surreal Machines. I use the Max for Live version, but they also have a VST/AU release which I assume sounds the same.

NI Replika XT is also a nice one, as others mentioned before.

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Yeah this was my impression from what I’ve heard. I personally am trying to avoid that tbh. Which is the issue with the Tone Recall: the Blue is too dark. The RKM sounds great but is a little much for my intentions. Plus it doesn’t have the level control and I’m not sure what its midi/cv abilities are.

Otherwise Maude seems sooo good.

Anyone else rockin’ the Lyra-8 FX? For the uninitiated it’s the dual-delay and distortion circuit from the Lyra-8, broken out into eurorack format. It can also be a very weird oscillator and noise source.

I use it mainly for adding roughness and depth to percussive hits, and creating sample one-shots. No doubt it could be used to delay a melody line, but due to complex interaction of each delay line and the overdrive, it can be very difficult to dial-in and really just wants to do it’s own thing.

One idea w/r/t Meet Maude might be to use the CV jack in send/return mode and insert an eq in the fx loop to brighten the repeats.

But in my experience, they’re (all BBD’s) all going to be pretty dark, taking the whole spectrum into account. The brightest analog delay I have is the Thermae, but there’s a ton of clock noise when you open up the filter.

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I’ve always used Maude at guitar level (or via a guitar-line level interface) so not sure about line level; can easily check for you though and report back.

As others have said here it is definitely dark. No doubt about that. The tone control has more of an effect on shaping the repeats and character of oscillation than it does at brightening things up.

But that is the joy of BBD delays in my opinion. Also, if you don’t cut the high frequencies enough you get all the horrid clock noise.

This also works well in a synth/eurorack type context (where sound sources, unless filtered, typically have a lot of bass and treble content).

The Maude also has a send/return loop on the same jack as the CV (so you can’t have CV and the loop). This is something I’ve not played with properly yet but plan to (could be really interesting with a pitch shifter for a BBD ‘shimmer’ effect).

The compressor and random modulation give the Maude a character and tonality that I have not heard in any other delay pedal (or indeed plugin). It’s unique and embraces all the idiosyncrasies of BBD’s, rather than trying to perfect them. It works as well as a processing box (with delay set at minimum and mix at full) as it does a delay. Almost the audio equivalent of a ‘vintage filter’ effect you get on photo apps.

I think I’ve effused about it before on here, but there is really nothing else like it as far as I’m aware.

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Yeah the sound of the thermae is almost CGI.

Thanks all! I’ll keep my eye on the RKM. Might even go full euro for that new Pittsburg bbd delay.

Didn’t see it mentioned yet but the new Erica Synths Zen Delay sounds great and seems to be super “playable”.

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is there a valid alternative out there for Chase Bliss Thermae in terms of pitch shifting/wobble delay? looking for something stereo, don’t care if it pedal or eurorack. Myabe something on er301 too?

It may sound silly but i have a sweet spot for the delay found in the Electribe Es1. Its a simple digital delay, with two parameters: amount/feedback and time. Very clean, doesnt go into self osc. I use it for shuffling my beats and making sort of glitch sound.
You can see in the picture that i have use the hell out of it, lol.

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That’s interesting! I have an old ESX-1 somewhere, maybe I’ll pull that out again and give it a listen. I imagine it’s probably pretty similar to the ES-1 if not the same. Love the wear on that picture, hah.

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