I don’t mean big studio sound necessarily. Certainly don’t mean overproduced, quite the opposite.

That’s true in theory, but what if you’re the Berlin Philharmonic and can’t always record in Jesus-Christus-Kirche. Or you want to blend your spot or soloist mics. Or you’re dealing with a shitty orchestral pit. There are even Haitink recordings in the magnificent Concertgebouw that have reverb enhancement, if you can believe it.

Film scoring, your needs change a lot, so you need hall manipulation or lots of sample libraries.

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Then record where you can and capture that ambience.

If you’re trying to say that only a Bricasti is good enough for these situations we’re going to have to agree to strongly disagree here, as well as agreeing that these are highly niche, highly specialized applications which come with a lot of (arguably arbitrary) commercial (and I use that word carefully) expectations.

I’m not discussing whether or not what some studio wants is appropriate. I’m discussing whether or not Bricasti are a) worth the price - which is a matter of opinion, not fact and b) actually sound very good at all, compared to what you’d do with a reverb in general, not in any specific commercial situation where meeting somebody’s arbitrary expectations is the main point. All I’m saying is that, in my view, Bricasti are only relatively good at a very niche set of applications, and again in my view, other reverbs can be made to do just as good a job perhaps outside the view of a very specific, very opinionated group of studio producers in the film and music industry. Your view clearly differs and I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m saying you’re sidestepping my point.

You might as well come on lines and start deifying an EMI TG12345 MK IV or an SSL 9K… sure, I’m sure some people feel that they can’t make a good recording with anything else. But if I state my opinion, as I did at first, saying I don’t get why people make such a big deal about these things because other great consoles have made fantastic records and in fact you don’t even need a console at all, it’s not much of a reply to come back and say “yes yes yes but these ultra-high-end production situations just demand it and they’re better for that”. Respectfully, I must say that’s not particularly valuable to the conversation.

So, I’ll say it again and then I won’t respond in this thread any more: I don’t think Bricastis are particularly great reverbs, although some people certainly seem to like them a lot, and I don’t know why so many other great reverbs get sidelined for not being Bricastis when those other reverbs do a lot better job of doing the bread-and-butter of creative sound design and technical mixing reverb duties for a whole lot less money. I’m not here to argue if your use case justifies one. I’m not here to argue if you think that they have merit, and I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m saying that they’re just not worth talking up and putting other reverbs down over, especially in the context of lines users and their typical reverb use cases.

The Bricasti I mentioned above your original post was the M200, which is their cheaper model not yet released, to meet the needs you describe better.

On your first point, it’s called a budget and a deadline for production and what works well every time you need it to help save time, which is money.

This is the view in which you seem to ignore a whole lot that I then tried illustrate, why it’s not “niche” or “commercial,” or “high end” at all necessarily either, another misapprehension. It’s all specific genres and applications, that’s all.

I’m not trying to justify one to you personally. I don’t even own one myself! I use other reverbs, but have tried to explain why exactly people value a Bricasti, and who to ask about it to get an informed use. Such as people who score over at vi-control and are trying to sell their mockups or even use sample packs directly if orchestra is not in budget for a short film or game.

About consoles, they’re good for live tracking without latency. That is their original function and why they are still used in venues today. The reason SSL first became popular was the eq and automation, it wasn’t about sound at all. That came later.

On your last point here, it’s more about technical differences in reverb design and what they’re capable of, it’s not about what’s worth taking up or not, although yes that can be annoying.

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Consider me impressed!

As it turns out, FX Aid XL does impress me… lots I can use in there, in terms of resonators, weird little delays and reverbs. I don’t think I’ll get the Desmodus after all; it’d be overkill with the rest of the stuff.

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Following up on my pre-release hype comment about the Vongon Ultrasheer Reverb/Vibrato, because one is sitting right next to me. Here are a few Matriarch doodles through it. I’m laying it on pretty thick here, but I really like the character of both the reverb and the random vibrato. I’m impressed!

Edit: Some guitar noodling.

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Just wanted to be #666 here!!
But here’s the new spacial section as part of my studio rewire. Keeping an eye out for another inexpensive/interesting half rack unit that covers some new ground (any suggestions?)


In addition, for the dub console section, I’m using this funky Peavey pedal and the awesome spring in the EV console.

Plugins I love: Valhalla VVV, Room and Supermassive and Soundtoys Lil Plate and a couple of the UA ones…

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Just ordered OTO BAM and I’m pretty excited about it, though I am trying to manage my expectations. I get great results with Valhalla Vintage, but I love pretty much every thing I’ve ever heard through BAM. Hoping it makes a big enough difference to justify the cost… which is… subjective I guess.

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I tweeted this out the other day after a particularly heavy usage, and I feel it has a place here image

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Anyone have any opinions on the Pladask Draume? I’m feeling the need to get a new small format reverb box for some guitar/synth stuff, and am thinking about the Draume, Mercury7, and the BAM. I like to run reverb into some overdrive/distortion, but there’s so many trade offs with maintaining stereo. BAM is particularly intriguing in that regard. Draume also seems to have very nice built in texture, but is mono (but has CV in), and I’ve had a Mercury7 before and really liked it, even if it was a bit too cold and I’d end up running it into something to add texture and saturation (usually a f*ck overdrive).

Decisions…

I’ve had all of those reverbs and I like draume the best for guitar. I’m getting M7 again for synths bc it’s stereo. Stereo draume would take the cake. If your needs are mono, I’d go for that.

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Just purchased a D4 from an old band mate. One of the presets was a match for my analog tube works tube spring reverb so that’s impressive.

This is cool.

I’m keenly interested in the Draume as well (I missed the 1st reissue batch :frowning_face:), the demo sounds great and I love that it embraces being a digital reverb. The ability to add texture (grit/distortion) and modulation (via CV too) is really interesting.

But… I’m also very intrigued by the Dark World, which offers similar (and perhaps too many more) features.

I’m curious if anyone here has experience with both or a position on one over the other.

I had a BAM and a M7 at one point. Sold them after some time.
Now I have an Empress Reverb, Specular Tempus and managed to buy a Draume last Sunday. It arrived on Tuesday.
I like the Draume very much. Out of the 3 Reverbs it is the most hands-on.
I also have the Taken and the Fabrikat from Pladask and have problems when they are next to each other with confusing which knob does what because of the inconsistency where the controls are located. For example the mix knob on the Draume is the last one on the second row. On the Taken it’s the first one in the first row and on the Fabrikat it’s the last one in the first row.

On the Draume the left foot switch is for extending the Reverb not endlessly but for many minutes.
I loved the clock-reverb relationship on the mood and that’s why I got the Draume. It does sound a bit more hifi than the crunchy Mood even at lower clocks.
I don’t use the FM & AM not as much as I would have thought but it is fun to bring some chaos from time to time into the reverbtail.
The metal and grain modes are fun but most of time I leave it at the clean hall setting and would have been satisfied if it only had that mode.

If you like lofi reverbs take a look at the Drolo Molecular Disruptor which I love or the 2 Reverbs by AC Noises which I gave not a listen yet.

20 characters of what is it exactly?

An effects pedal with 16 out of 36 selectable algorithms.
My personal GOAT out of all synths, drummaschines or effects I´ve ever had.

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I wonder how it’s compared with something like CooperFX Arcades?

I had read some ppl were having problems with the display on the arcades. I wouldn’t understand the need for a display on an effects pedal. It’s such a distraction.
But you can always tape it over :smiley:

Soundwise while the many algos on the MD can sound sameish being able to change the clock speed gives all the parameters a whole new dimension to play with.
It just never gets boring.
Give me 5 MD´s and I would sell all my other pedals. It’s that versatile and fun.

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I was hoping to pick up the Molecular Disruptor when they went on sale a few days ago. Forgot to set an alarm and got caught up making dinner and missed the sale. They sell out so damn fast though.

Here are some tips to get Drolo Pedals:

  1. The stock goes online usually 15-20seconds before the announced time. If not online yet wait 3 seconds and refresh.
  2. Fill out your form next time you are on the checkout page so when you don’t get to shop at least the browser has all your data already so you don’t need to fill it out the next time around.
  3. Buy something else from another shop an hour before to make sure PayPal doesn’t need to verify your phone number in case you have not bought something for a long time or your device is logged into a different wlan.
  4. If you share your wlan with someone else make sure they don’t hog the bandwidth by streaming or something similar. Maybe use your cellphone to create a hotspot.

Heeding these tips I managed to get a MD, Streicht Weaver and a Stammen on one weekend earlier this year.
That feeling was better than playing in front of a big crowd. Such a rush ;D

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