#708

Try to contact, Belton.
http://belton.biz/eshop/contents.html?layout=agency
i purchased spring tanks there.

#709

Have you contacted Knas directly to see what they use? These tanks are often used in guitar amps so check those kinds of parts places.

There is a good decoder here:


If anything it looks like it might be an 8EB2E1A (mounted horizontally) though I think it might be easier to find an 8EB2_1A and just remove the metal housing (either way, check my math! haha). You’ll want to confirm and match the input and output impedances and there is some physics behind how the tanks are made to be mounted but I couldn’t say how much this affects the sound or if upside down is “better” than turned 90 degrees, for instance.
#710

I needed new springs for my Moisturizer last year and got a new one from Knas directly for a very reasonable price, and wired up ready to go… Maybe try emailing them again? It wasn’t the fastest, but they did come through.

#711

anyone have any thoughts on death by audio’s Rooms? i’m pondering getting a new HW reverb and torn between rebuying BAM, splurging on the cba/meris box, or checking out rooms

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#712

The demos of DBA Rooms mostly all seem too ‘epic’ to me. I’ve thought about an Eventide H9 max since it also has tons of other algorithms.

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#713

I just gave @sunbeamer’s rooms a new home and have taken it for a couple spins. This is certainly not a tech demo or even a deep exploration. Just a noodle session that got short by democracy in America nearly collapsing.

My initial impressions are that it’s capable of being huge while also staying out of the way, which I like.

It will rage if you want it to, but that’s not really my style.

On the back end, BAM and Rooms are both running on a Spin FV-1, whereas the Meris is ostensibly a newer platform. I’m not sure which one, but they’ve mentioned in the past that their other pedals are running on newer tech than the SHARC.

Yeah, you certainly can’t go wrong there. Tons of great verbs on that platform. Blackhole is awesome. Mangled verb is nice too. I seem to remember that the plate was pretty good.

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#714

Rooms is awesome and I’m slightly sad I sold it, but it could never replace my BAM. I do think it’s incredible for drone synths in particular (which @mattlowery has done a great job demonstrating), it has some really cool modulation modes and a nice stereo image.

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#715

Sounds great! Are you sure BAM is FV-1 based? That seems unlikely to me based on the feature set.

#716

Yeah, or at least partly (though it surprised me too). Though I’m not an engineer and have no idea how much lifting each of these chips does on its own.

Test & Interview: OTO machines BAM, Hall-Effektgerät - Seite 2 von 3 - AMAZONA.de

Translated:

Denis:
BAM has 2 processors. The first is a Microchip DSPIC33 (16 bit) with a 24 bit CODEC. The signal is reduced to 16 bits, which in my opinion sounds almost exactly like the old converters that were used in the early digital reverb units. The DSPIC calculates the pre-delay, the input filters, the diffusers and a lot more. The second is a SPIN FV-1 (this chip was developed by Keith Barr, founder of Alesis). The FV-1 works with 24 bits, but I limited this to 20 bits to simulate the CPUs of the older reverb devices. The reverb tail is calculated in this chip. After the FV-1 there is still a lot of analog processing. Compared to other DSPs or microcontrollers, the sound of the FV-1 was closest to that of the early digital reverb devices. It’s a rather unusual way of designing a reverb device in 2016, but I was very happy with the sound (and so are our customers).

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#717

That’s fascinating in 20 characters! :slight_smile:

#718

I’m constantly amazed at what people keep coming up with using the fv-1. For example, the chase bliss MOOD takes advantage of the clock speed of the chip to change the effects.

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#719

Totally. Over the past year I’ve gone from thinking I “don’t like FV-1 hardware” to realizing that it’s just a platform, and what matters most is the care taken (or not taken) in designing for that platform.

It just so happens to be a platform that a lot of shops use for their first digital exploration, and thus over-indexes for lackluster, slightly boring implementations.

Watching Tom from Cooper FX pull magic out of that chip really changed my mind.

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#720

Wish he would just make more of his pedals.

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#721

I think he’s trying! One man shop. What we really need is to clone Tom.

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#722

Recently grabbed a quadraverb without knowing exactly what to expect. I was surprised that it can actually do long, lush tails, not at all metallic as I expected.

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#723

I wonder if it would make a sense to create a list of pedals/modules using Spin FV-1. BAM and Mood has been mentioned and there probably are many more. Arcades pedal comes to mind, also Dervish module…

#724

The Tiptop ZDSP uses one, as do the Erica Synths Pico DSP and Black Hole DSP.

Actually, I know someone who’s making a 2HP expander that allows you to use the ZDSP cards with the Pico or Black Hole DSP modules (the 3 controls from the FV1 are interchangeable but then each module has additional stuff happening before or after).

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#725

Also add Happy Nerding’s FX Aid to the list of modules. It seems to have some really nice sounding reverbs.

#726

Please provide a link or contact for that expander :flushed:

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#727

Sorry, I’m on my phone and don’t have proper links but search “xodesnet” on instagram, he posted a few things last week I think

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