#374

From what I can tell, @joshhh understands what it does, but wanted to hear/see it in action specifically on the Bam. The background doesn’t hurt though!

In comparing Bam to other reverbs, I’ve been wondering – does space/h9 latch? That appeals to me quite a bit on the Bam since you don’t have to hold it down. My Big Sky didn’t have that except via MIDI if I recall.

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#375

@jonny is right, I’m definitely aware of ‘Freezing’ as an overall technique, more just wanting to get a feel for how it sounds and works specifically in the BAM, and since it’s right on the front panel and latches, it strikes me as intended to be more performative than in some other implementations.

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#376

On the Eventides, does changing the size parameter change the pitch, similar to changing time on an analog delay? That’s what the BAM does, I’m sure it’s not unique but it’s not the most common feature. I was referring to it above, grabbing a single note and then “playing” a melody with the size knob. If the Eventide does that too, it might change my FX calculus.
I’ve long been using an EHX Cathedral for verb freezes and the only parameter you can change is tone, I plan on selling it when I pick up a BAM.

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#377

i use it quite a bit on sharing waves :slight_smile:

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#378

It depends on the algorithm. Some do, some don’t. If they are delay-line implemented reverbs then usually yes, changing the size changes pitch. If they use resonant networks instead (e.g. blackhole), it doesn’t always (or if/when it does, it’s not as clear or obvious in all cases). That said, if that’s an effect you want, there’s at least one or two of them that do that.

#379

Thanks for clearing that up, I read @joshhh’s comments as being surprised such a feature existed at all. As you both pointed out, that wasn’t necessary. Sorry for the noise!

Yep, you can choose between latching or momentary for the H9 depending on how you map your footswitch. https://www.eventideaudio.com/comment/27158#comment-27158 has a good summary of your options and how to implement it. The Space is similar, but it includes an extra footswitch onboard so you don’t need an external one.

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#380

For those of you who have been using the Chase Bliss Dark World, how is the pedal for pure ambience? I’m trying to get a sense if its sweet-spots are more in conjunction with the Dark mod/warbles side or if you can squeeze some large, sweeping ambient fields out of the pedal too? With most of the demos being used with guitars, it’s been hard for me to judge use cases with synths.

#381

It’s pretty great for ambient IMHO, except that it’s mono. Infinite hold, or just very long reverb times (the plate goes to about 48 seconds).

The “mod” mode on the dark side is nicely softened and less warbly when the routing switch is centered, so all the noise goes into the reverb. Also the tone control tames mod mode a lot.

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#382

for a “master” reverb i would go for BAM. However, i use Dark World in almost every patch as it adds a lot of character

Here a recording i made when i got the pedal and tested some of its modes. There is a lot of BAM inside too, but you may get another idea about the sounds and modes

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#383

Though it’s not just a reverb, I’m surprised to see no mention of Vermona Retroverb Lancet here. This video makes it look pretty interesting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNwafxgfC4w

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#384

Thanks for mentioning because I really love it, actually only ever used it in recording studios but really do love it. Vermona stuff rarely get mentionned yet they make stuff that, to my ears, always sound musically and very well thought out

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#385

I just need to haul my case somewhere to test an Erbe-Verb. I know it’s a totally different beast than Halls of Valhalla, but I’ve been debating making the switch.

HoV sound great but the Z-DSP is a lot of HP and I only really tweak the decay when performing. The notion of having more parameters to change the space dynamically sounds really nice…

…but HoV is also really really nice.

I’ve read a few threads comparing them, and there isn’t a right answers, but I’d welcome thoughts if anyone has them.

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#386

I’d say is HOV is an awesome reverb which, when in Z-dsp can be modulated, somewhat. ErbeVerb, on the other hand, is more of a reverb instrument that can have all parameters modulated. It can also be an oscillator. I like both, but I only have ErbeVerb as a module. I use Valhalla plug ins.

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#387

Erbe all the way for me. Yes it can be a sort of wacky experimental metallic “not-reverb” reverb, but to me not enough cred is given to how it can do great lush sounds as well…as best I can recall, it was the only reverb I used on Stroke of Blue.

I was talking with @fourhexagons about this the other day actually. Of all the hardware and software reverbs I’ve used, none are quite as good as Erbe when it comes to really immersing the sound source in the space, to my ears. Even the BAM which I still use and sounds great can oftentimes sound like reverb is just sort of, poured on after the sound, rather than the sound really being IN the space.

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#388

That’s an interesting meter for reverb. Wondering what defines this - more complex algorithms? more blending between early reflections and tail?

There is lots of love here for algorithmic reverb, rightly because of the sound and flexibility, but do many people use IR reverb? A lot of my non-music output is sound design and I use Altiverb a lot there for modeling real spaces. Love the depth and detail in some of their IRs.

I’ve also been very into IR stuff in Max using the HISS library - loads of potential for making unusual sounding reverbs. I’ve been messing around with randomising many IR’s across multiple reverbs (like 4, 8 or 16), spread across stereo or ambisonics. It can sound very rich and unnatural, but also very subtle applied gently.

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#389

According to this criteria, the ableton m4l convolution pro is what I feel gets closer to that feeling in software form, in a very easy “dial in a few parameters and you’re good to go” kind of way.

It’s not quite as effective for super long lush atmospheres though, but it really feels like the sound is in the space more than 90% of the other reverbs I use.

#390

That reminds me, Tasty Chips has been developing a eurorack convolution reverb, should be available soonish…

https://www.tastychips.nl/?p=3160

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#391

Can’t recommend the Quadraverb enough. They are cheap to get and have a legendary sound.

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#392

It’s a great reverb. I spent hours running stuff through that thing when I was young. I’d absolutely consider one myself again if I wasn’t trying to keep everything in the rack.

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#393

Yeah! I’ve still got mine and use it regularly in combination with my OTO BIM(Planning on picking up a BAM soon). I wish there was a pedal or euro version of the Quadra. I hear the Wedge comes close, but haven’t found one yet.