Someone else on here mentioned that the Erbe-Verb always sounds like an old shoe thrown down a metal chimney. Initially, I agreed with this assessment but that’s because I insisted on making Erbe-Verb too prominent in my mixes. Now, I like to run single elements into it - special FX elements or a melodic element - as a special sauce or spice. Now, I perceive the Erbe-Verb sounding like a new pair of Jordans thrown down a fancy chimney.

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have you had any luck with controlling the bam via midi program change messages? i can’t get it to work with my digitakt. i e-mailed denis awhile ago and he said he would try to get his hands on a digitakt and troubleshoot. i was just wondering if it was a digitakt only bug or not.

At least my oto’s didn’t like midi being sent to them when they’re turned on. Try taking the midi cable out for the second-two you turn it on.

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I listened to Erbe-Verb a lot more closely this week (thanks to someone’s bold, quixotic project to attempt to recreate it on the ER-301 based on the paper Tom Erbe wrote about it, even though they don’t have an Erbe-Verb for comparison).

I like the clattering / scattering sound when the size is high and absorption is minimal and there’s no modulation – and the eventual descent into chaos that happens when the decay time is cranked up high enough. It’s pretty much exactly what one would expect a series of reflections to sound like, in the rawest form – reverb theory made practice. The input has to be a quick little ping to hear that properly though.

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Just tried controlling the BAM from my Digitakt and it worked fine, no issues whatsoever.

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VV and Eventide 2016 is my standard combo. I still reach for a Midiverb 2 and Quadraverb for special sauce, but I can see myself leaving them behind once I get more familiar with the Valhalla stuff.

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I’m probably not the only one with a Midiverb 2 in the rack? I bought one after digging through Blake Baxter interviews, trying to replicate the space on his track “When a thought becomes you”. I recall seeing MV2 attributed to him.

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Just found a mint PCM 60 on Reverb. Pretty excited.The Room!
My hardware set up is now close to ideal - PCM 60 - simple, Meris Mercury 7 - huge or simple, ErbeVerb - more of an instrument.

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i tried it again after reading your reply and i got it working :man_facepalming:t3:

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Hey I made a reverb plugin: https://madronalabs.com/products/aaltoverb

The basic algorithm of this is something that I’ve been playing with for a long time, since I made the yafr~ example for Max/MSP (in 2001 or so?) based on the Dattorro paper that gave away the idea behind one reverb “in the style of Greisinger.” (Lexicon)

My newer take on it is that all the allpass delay lines are smoothly modulatable using an idea proposed in “A Lossless, Click-free, Pitchbend-able Delay Line Loop Interpolation Scheme” (Van Duyne, Jaffe, Scandalis, Stilson, ICMC 1997.) So the size can vary from small to large without clicks, which I won’t claim is unique but I don’t hear most reverbs doing.

I plan to share source code for the basic ideas behind this soon… but not tonight. Meanwhile if you want to support this work and have a use for it please grab a plugin license. Or the T-shirt.

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I’m really excited to try it out, I already loved the reverb algorythm on Aalto so this just makes sens and the focus on a reverb you can perform is just so clever and simple.

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Unfortunately Maschine doesn’t support VST3.

I am interested, unfortunately on my iPad with current OS the sound sample section only shows a truncated cooky disclaimer…:cry:

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Wow! With the source code could this run headless on something like a teensy? The new 4.0 seems ripe for these more intensive DSP applications.

nice @randy! video2 demo really shows off the performative aspect of this. looking forward to picking this up and trying it out.

Also couldn’t resist a shirt. Leafcutter John’s Arcs work is really stunning: http://leafcutterjohn.com/visual-art/arcs/

20 characters of I’ll DM you to sort this out.

I’ll do likewise with any other kind of personal support stuff so as not to clutter up the thread.

@Oootini Great aren’t they? I’d like to get one of the bigger ones myself if it’s still available… Excited to see where he goes with this.

@cwil I’m not familiar with what a Teensy can do. The reverb algorithm is pretty light and takes around 2–3% of my laptop, verrrrry roughly. Oh let’s see, Cortex M-7 @ 600 MHz? yes I think probably.

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Do you know off the top of your head how much memory it uses? This is usually more of a limitation, but external memory can be added to the teensy (not that I’ve ever done it!)

The buffers all add up to about one second of audio. So, around 40000 samples x 4 bytes = 160kb.

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congrats @randy ! this looks amazing!

yesssssss! this is one of my favorite aspects of OTO Machine’s BAM hardware - so happy to have this on the software side :pray:

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