#597

Crazy… Those files are in the SD2 format, which can’t be read by OSX (now “MacOS”) because they have resource forks. But they can be read by an app called Sound Grinder, which will convert them with their folder structure intact to wav. The original files were 48/24. Since I own Sound Grinder and a de-archiver that can read the old Mac stuff-it format (.sit) files, I was able to download and open the sit files and convert them to stereo 48/24 wav files which are here:

I didn’t take too long, once I remembered how it all worked. Enjoy!

Edit: Actually, two of the folders couldn’t be seen by Sound Grinder, so they aren’t present here. They are the Fostex 3180, and Masterroom II IR’s. Oh, well.

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#598

Valhalla Supermassive free download!
https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-supermassive/

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#599

  1. Patch a gate into SIZE. Instant whip sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OD-JSc_YiI

  2. Use to cv out into the decay with the attenuverter at 10 or 9 0 clock. Turn the decay all the way up: infinite tails without getting out of control.

  3. Feed the erbeverb back into itself using a mixer and adjust the predelay parameter to use it as an echo

  4. If you feed it back into it self an patch a sequence or s&h to the DRYWET cv input, you can get melodies out of it https://www.instagram.com/p/B2-nAF9ghoM/

  5. You can get more “dreamy” reverb if you put the DEPTH knob to the right, with slow SPEED

Thats what i remember. I sold mine a couple months ago.

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#600

Been beta testing this the last few weeks, it’s fantastic!

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#601

Thank you so much! Too bad about the spring reverbs but seeing as how the page hasn’t been updated in 16 years it’s lucky we still have access to any of them at all at this point.

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#602

20 Characters of HELL YES!

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#603

from the valhalla blog:

Andromeda: A super massive variant of the Sagittarius mode. Very slow attack with a fair amount of predelay, and decay times that can range into thousands of seconds.

Don’t forget to turn off your Supermassive before you leave the house!

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#604

I totally agree with you. That’s something that’s been happening to me these days. Reverbs tend to give a “too epic” taste to sounds but at the same time the original sound with its nuances is gone. I’m hearing these days a lot of “musique concrete” recordings with almost no reverb or effects applied and I love that pure sound. A lot of times I use reverbs just to create stereo spread but with a hi cost: destroying the original sound …

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#605

For that type of thing, if I want the space but without calling too much attention to itself, I tend just to use short delays (Haas style) or early reflections, without the long tails. Valhalla Room and the Eventide 2016 are both great for this. I’m also into “you don’t notice it’s there until you take it away” style effects, hence why the Roland/Boss Dimension is my fave effect of all time (although it’s not a Reverb).

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#606

indeed. reverb can be beautiful, of course, but at the expensive of detail, tactility or, in the cases of much of my own or label-mates work, the blurring of the physical properties of the instrument.

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#607

It’s good to return to this topic after some time has passed.

In short, I realized that a lot of the problems I was having with reverb were actually problems with me. Verb had become a crutch for me, and I was using it to smear the edges of uninteresting sounds to make them more palatable, rather than spending the time to craft a noise worth reverberating.

I’ve begun to think of reverb as an instrument of its own- a “room to play”, if you will. As a result, I use a lot less of it, which makes it meaningful when I do.

As usual, more thought and consideration lead to better sounds. Another reason to love Lines!

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#608

Any idea what sort of settings produce the crying, whistling, organ-like feedback you hear in a track like this (you can hear clearly at around 1:20)? You can also hear it pretty frequently in Tim Hecker’s music. The internet says he uses a PCM70 and harmonizers, so, I imagine that’s a start, but it’s a common effect that I’m wondering if someone can share their approach.

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#609

Not tried this and listening on my phone right before bedtime so take this with some grain of salt but this is how I would approach it:

It sounds to me like a reverb and a pitch shifter patched in a feedback loop. Different models of either are probably going to give you a different tone but I think you can achieve the effect with a combination, really.
Then the interval of the pitch shifter is going to make a huge difference on the tone of the sound, so I’d play around with that.
You really need to watch your levels and make sure they don’t clip, that’s really easy to happen and will ruin the delicate balance. A compressor might help with that.
An EQ might also help you shape the sound better, it almost sounds like that on the track.

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#610

Reminiscent of some high-Q territories I got into with the 4ms SMR

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#611

Yeah, it basically sounds like the Shimmer effect to me, pitch shifter in the feedback path of the reverb. Valhalla DSP and Eventide both have a Shimmer effect that does this well.

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#612

It doesn’t sound like the interval is an octave to me, which is why I described how to set it up as a custom effect. I’m also not sure that the other sound of the track is necessarily being fed into the loop, you can create those sounds by just having it feed back on itself.

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#613

Doesn’t have to be an Octave with the Shimmer effect, not sure what gave you that idea? See +/- Pitch Shift controls on both, editable in Cents:

https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-shimmer/

Valhalla have a really good article on the effect, as it was originally created, if you want to have a go at DIY:

https://valhalladsp.com/2010/11/23/valhallashimmer-a-bit-of-history/

There are a load more great Blog posts on Shimmer there too, I particulalry like the one on how to achieve the old ALesis “Bloom” style reverb.

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#614

Not looking up the specific plugins you referred to gave me that idea :joy::sweat_smile:

The vast majority of shimmer reverb implementations I’ve looked at have restricted the controls to octaves, or fifths at most.

I apologize for being presumptuous.

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#615

Thanks all. Going to try this. I have Valhalla Shimmer but to be honest I don’t think that’s it. There’s something about the harmonics that makes me think it’s not. I have terrible pitch, so I’m not sure what the interval is, but it’s this specific interval that I hear in common when I’ve noticed this effect, but if it is shimmer it should be fairly easy to find. I might be mistaken but it does sound like three tones to me.

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#616

Could be a resonator effect, could be pitched delay feedback (multitaps can do similar things emphasizing certain frequencies). The specifics and results vary but these are other classic effects that can provide specific harmonics. Add some distortion before a high feedback reverb network can also, depending on the reverb, make similar sounds too.

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