Well there isn’t really the concept of an edit mode at the moment, it’s just always available but I’ll have a think on it.
And nope, they’ve always had the same functionality but what gets streamed was tweaked.

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What’s the easiest way to shift the whole thing up by 2 octaves?
I am using a Qunexus to trigger the samples/loops. The script is set up to place the first sample at C-2, but the Qunexus will only go down to C0. I.e. ideally I’d like to set this up so the first sample/slot responds to C0.
Also I was wondering the following thing: You can send MIDI notes to the Qunexus to have the buttons light up. I think it’s similar to the launchpad in this.
Now, one thing that could be cool would be to have the script send back a MIDI note when a sample slot is set to “toggle”, this way the key would light up, making it easier to see that that sample is playing.

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I’d just start at C0, no harm in leaving some slots empty.

I don’t own any devices that do this, it’d be cool to support though – is there a standard for it or are different devices using different commands for this do you know?

It’s just an echo back of note number. Livid instruments controllers do the same - in their case they also used velocity to map to a specific LED color (for RGB devices). That color map may be up to each device (manufacturer) tho.

Happy to do some testing with the Qunexus or other devices

Launchpad apparently does similar - but a bit more complicated I suppose (more in programmers reference page 3)

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Great, sounds simple, will take a look at this in the next update!

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You are totally right. I guess I was just a bit lazily hoping there was a way to use the quick “load folder” thing and have the samples mapped to C0 and above. But thinking about it, there’s so much tweaking that goes into each slot that it doesn’t really make a difference.
One thing is sure, I don’t see myself using more than 30-40 slots anyway.

Cool! Thank you very much!

Thanks a lot! Also happy to test. I have a qunexus and a faderfox UC4.
the latter has LEDs on the buttons and you can make them light up by sending the corresponding CC or note on the same channel as the controller is set up.
I.e. if I for eg. have the buttons set up to send notes from C0 on ch1 then sending these notes on the same channel will make the corresponding buttons light up.
One needs to be careful though not to create feedback. Since the USB connection is bidirectional the controller needs to be set up so it does not send the notes it receives back to the MIDI USB output channel.

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As a monome 64 user Timber Player is a game changer. Instant finger drumming and tons of possibilities for creative application. Very performable. The UI makes sense and looks great. Thank you @markeats you’re awesome.

Are pattern recorders a possibility for a future release?

Ah yes that I do want to add – the ability to load a folder starting at a given slot. This was requested further up the thread and I will get to for sure!

Glad you’re getting stuck into it! Pattern recorders would make total sense but I must admit they are fairly far down my to do list simply because they’re not something I’d likely use myself.

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+1 for pattern recorders - it’s my jam :slight_smile: I love Earthsea for doing this kind of stuff.

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I seem to be too confused to find the global toggle option. I only have per sample option in the main windows and also in the background options.

In the params screen https://monome.org/docs/norns/play/#pages

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Looked there ofc maybe my version of shield and timber is too old? around feb 2020, was this added later? Bc i cant acsess wifi with my shield anymore annoyingly.

Oh possibly, yeah definitely try and get on the latest version

Hey @markeats! Is there a way to make “start” one of the params that the LFO can affect?

Edit: I’m referring to the chosen sample’s start position, just for the record.

Technically possible in the SC lib yes. It would only effect the start when a sample is triggered, not the progress of playback though, is that the intent? You could achieve similar by making a few copies of the sample with different start times and triggering them randomly for now.

That’s the intent, yes. I ended up connecting my phone to norns with the an iConnect midi, and mapping the “start” param of two samples to different LFOs. Worked great! With a longish sample (these were chord progressions), it’s fun to just kind of mash buttons, not knowing which chord will come out!

Would be cool to be able to do this internally, but this worked great for today!

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Very nice! Thx for sharing

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For sure! Hadn’t played in Timbre since the params system overhaul. Had so much fun!

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I have a question about midi mapping timber to a 16n faderbank.

I imagine i can map each fader to a global function like sample start, sample end etc and have the fader active to the sample presently played/pressed on a grid.

Is that the way its set up or will the mapping always be individual per sample?

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Good question, I asked that myself recently. Did not have the time to check this yet, but it would be great for the a smoother workflow if it would change with the sample presently played/pressed… and save a lot of work and mapping options with my EC4.

Timber is so deep and amazing.

I had a few crashes with norns though, when I wanted to change individual samples after I loaded a full folder in the beginning. Sometimes I was just scrolling through my (larger) sample folder). Otherwise it runs really stable.

Crash issue thread: Norns: crash reports with large sample holding