#41

wowww.

I was unfamiliar with Chris Dave’s work prior to this. Can’t stop watching videos now. So phenomenal.

Any other recommendations for folks along these lines?

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#42

excited to try this out when I get home to my studio (sadly not until Saturday :((()

#43

He’s amazing, though I tend to not like his solo-ish stuff (saw the Drum Hedz live a couple years ago). Too “chops” for my tastes.

His sense of time and role is something else altogether though. He doesn’t play like a drummer at all, it’s properly and functionally creative, never being a slave to ‘time’.

Mark Guiliana is another guy I really like, though with similar caveats:

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#44

Not electronic but everything Krantz Carlock Lefebvre do is just astounding, here’s one example:

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#45

music is a language, it’s different than other languages in that one can listen, and speak(play) at the same time. in fact, it’s required. it’s not speak, wait, listen, wait, speak etc… :slight_smile:
https://soundcloud.com/phinery/glia-muqarnas-13-muqarnas?in=phinery/sets/ph060-glia-muqarnas

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#46

Great playlist full of unique perspectives on time AND pitch.

Found via

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#47

Oh I saw people saying that they couldn’t “count when they play”. That’s totally normal, no one should ever count when he plays. You got to feel the rhythm, analyze it, sing it in your head until it becomes natural, and then you can play it properly.

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#48

I agree, with the exception that in some cases I count when I’m not playing so I know when to come in :wink:

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#49

I dunno. I’ve seen plenty of players counting while learning a new tune. It works if you go slow enough, and in the very beginning it makes sense to go slow. Of course I’m thinking here about groups of people learning to play a song they didn’t write. Not the same thing as composition or improv and at a much earlier stage than performance or even rehearsal.

#50

Also great, thanks :slight_smile:

NYC based too, will have to see if I can catch him around town.

Nice that he seems to work with a lot of synthy folks, I like jazzy stuff a lot, but sometimes the traditional instrumentation grates on me a bit.

#51

Defaults, great point. Am I wrong to remember Kria comes with some sixes, not eights or sixteens as default?

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#52

Giuliana graduated William Paterson jazz school right before I got there. Legendary!

But Tyshawn Sorey was still around. My god

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#53

Venetian Snares uses a LOT of odd rhythms

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#54

But if you want to dig in complex rhythms take a listen on Ari Hoenig (he wrote some music studies on polyrhythms) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzUlFoG-zOU . Chris potter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-x4f7o-8E8, Youseef Lateef also, (but is way more complicated).

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#55

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/2431/polyrhythmus-a-modular-euclidean-rhythm-builder

I really like this device. Used it in a few tracks for melodies and rhythm.

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#56

The author of polyrythmus, @benniii, is a lines member. :slight_smile:

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#57

:heart:
grrrr… really hoping to finish the monome-sequencer, soonish… it’ll do a lot of what polyrhythmus does, yet goes far beyond that.

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#58

Bwarf, don’t have an ableton license, maybe it can be opened with the Max Runtime.
(One day I’ll have money, and proper gear…)

#59

Here are two long and slow drum-free tracks I wrote where all the parts are in different time signatures. The sequences essentially all loop (with lots of live parameter tweaking etc) but at different lengths. In some cases two (MIDI) sequences are going to the same instrument, for example the plucked sound that goes on far too long at the start of the first one. :blush:

I don’t think these tracks are amazing or anything, but I enjoyed making them and hope they’re of interest. They worked well in a live setting. I hope this isn’t perceived as too spammy.

Here’s another one, Hoops, that is more of a pretty electronic pop thing - more like an old Plaid tune or something - with drums and what have you. Rather than being polymetric it’s what I think you call a compound rhythm - a four bar phrase but the bars are different lengths. To my ears it does just feel quite pop still, which I was pleased about.

Edit: the first thing I ever released was in 11/8 now I think of it.

#60

There I go writing about myself - cool first post, bro :wink: - but here’s another electronic artist that really inspired me: A Finnish producer called Ukkonen, who I think is into old Detroit techno, but writes on paper and typically doesn’t use a regular time signature.
My fave from him is The Isolated Rhythms Of.

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