#62

Wow, that’s really fucking slick. Tons of potential there too.

A good friend of mine was doing all this mixer feedback techno years ago, and though I can’t find that project online, this track is in that same vein (all sounds are no-input mixer):
http://music.concretemoniker.co.uk/track/complete-circular-revulsions

Yup…just spent the last 2 hours looking up mods and making a list of shit to do/buy, lol.

And yeah, keep the routines coming!

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#63

yo his DMC set was dope but the I like the vestax competition performance more.

he does this pattern starting like at 2:32 which is just too sick and I always come back to it.

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#64

Do guys know of other turntablists that come from a scratch/battle type background, but lean more towards the experimental?

I really love hearing these guys ripping it up, but I find it harder to get into the “routine” format where it’s like an endless chain of 30sec tricks/bits (punctuated with clever samples). That stuff is super interesting, and I’m sure will become more fascinating once I start doing more of it, but I’d love to hear more of that kind of shit in another musical context.

The only ones that (rely heavily on scratching) that I’ve seen are Dj Sniff and Joke Lanz, and neither is super athletic on the turntables.

Maybe it’s just a mutually exclusive thing, that the further into the experimental shit you push, the more the ‘scratching’ falls away?

And/or know of people doing crazy shit with timecode vinyl (Serato/Ms Pinky)?

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#66

I did this as well but managed to come away without a definite to-buy list. Figure I should get the basics down first and try not to get ahead of myself as I have tendency to do.

The faceplate removal mod at least is going to happen though.

Also tempted to throw a “super pitch” pot in there as well. But I try to do that w/ all my electronics :stuck_out_tongue:

#67

First thing I’ve done is remove the slipmat that comes with it, and ordered mats/records. Beyond that I want to add the built in preamp (will be handy for using directly into a computer without a ‘real’ mixer), add a rechargeable battery (will be generally useful), add the platter bars, ultrapitch, and start/stop mods.
Maybe the 3d printed tonearm + real cartridge if I decide to go further with it.

I guess I have to be careful too as mine is from 2006, so the newer ones (and mods) are a bit different.

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#68

Great thread! Have always been interested in turntableism. Those experimental vids are off the wall never seen anything like that!

I notice Vekked buying guide was mentioned earlier… His winning DMC set of 2015 is one of my favourites of recent years. So smooth

IMO anyone looking to buy a used turntable should check out the vestax pdx 2000, very similar to the 3000 which were minor improvements according to reviews. Great deck got mine so unbelievably cheap. €90

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#69

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ3N6XADe9I

Invisibl Skratch Piklz. All they do is scratch. I’ve been scratching for years. I do it almost as a stress reliever.

I’d go with the 1200s, by the way. You can’t go wrong.

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#70

If you’re looking to save on cost, then I agree. Otherwise, I’d say go for 1200s. You just can’t go wrong. The build quality is incredible.

#71

just for fun…

turntable and drums… -after a fashion.

and more or less on topic…

  • bass at 3:02

not sure how durable these polycarbonate CD engravings are …
-still its a cool project… diy dub yr own scratch record perhaps -you can use the spiral drive from old cd trays to move the cutter as the throw distance is just right… only a matter of getting the motor speed to reflect the playing speed, 45 78 etc…
I have a couple small record players that I’ve part adapted bastl’s kinetic modules to control… and singing bowls… -work in progress …

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#72

this is super fun – I noticed in watching the video that he has his L/R on his crossfader reversed ––– is this common amongst scratch djs? If so what’s the [perceived?] benefit? Or just another way to be flashy/standout?

ps: all this turntablism is just making me wanna watch Juice again

[edit:] so after watching the performance again, I feel like I find myself falling on old tropes of people that tend to not-think-so-highly of electronic music, where there seems to be a lot of trickery I don’t understand, and until this point I had mostly seen turntablism as an event of pure physicality, dexterity, [and creativity]. And while this probably exhibits the most of the third quality [tho nothing lacking in a and b] I feel like once the trickery extends beyond what I can see — it’s hard to relate to battle djing [as a plebe.]

Now if this was just person like “this is my live performance, this is my track” I’d be bout it bout it, but feel weird since it’s placed in the djing/turntablism context.

Anyone else? Just me? Is this because I haven’t watched much scratching in the last 10 years and this is painfully obvs to folx in the kno?

ok ok rant over. That was really cool :>

#73

If you’re into skateboarding it’s the difference between goofy and regular

it is intentional…but no purpose aside from personal comfort and style

some techniques feel easier with the fader set up that way

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#74

http://dj.rane.com/blog/history-of-the-hamster-switch

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#75

It is most definitely dexterity, skill and creativity. These guys spend up to a whole year perfecting their routines for the big competitions. I think also DVS systems have the art form to evolve considerably. They can launch samples, cue up loops or add fx on top of their scratches to enhance the performance further. I understand what you mean though, they move so fast its hard to follow whats going on sometimes.

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#76

the goofy analog makes a lot of sense / thanks!

@red that bit of history is v interesting. Didn’t know any of this before.

Huzzah for yet another subculture to be a tourist/pilferer of ;X

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#77

hamster style is love, hamster style is life.

I decided to try running my mixer hamster a few years back because I thought that focusing on cutting the sound off rather than cutting it on would be an interesting challenge. Especially when doing crabs or twiddles. Turns out I really enjoy hamster style so I just use it for anything and everything (cutting, juggling, mixing, etc).

goofy vs regular is a good analogy. I like that.

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#78

I find it better to scratch hamster / reverse. Makes for sharper cuts.

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#79

Takes a bit to learn, but once you get it down, it’s heaven :slight_smile:

#80

love gijs!

there’s a lot of folks doing lathes and home cuts in a similar manner (kero @ detund, sergei @ cyland)

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#81

A friend of mine has just started a PhD (MPhil actually, to start I think) in which he’s working out a way to cut proper records using a laser cutter. Could be pretty sweet for small run/dubplate type purposes.

(speaking of, looking at dubplate 7", and they aren’t too expensive really, so might work out a bunch of my favorite samples and have a disk cut)

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