#19

I am hoping for a really deep computer editing platform for the Super 6 at some stage. George already said it might happen, with things like a global or per function “slop” parameter (like on Uhe Diva), microtuning/scales, user wavetables, user adjustable timings etc. That could go a long way towards making it do vintage tones better, but that wasn’t a consideration for why I bought it. I think the main things were the sound, the build quality, and the user interface, for me.

Not been a fan of anything Novation since I pre-ordered the original BassStation (had serial number 16), and although I liked the sound, I was extremely disappointed with the overall build quality, plastic feel etc. Am sure they are better now, but once bitten, twice shy…

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#20

At first I thought it was another Juno clone based on the look/name, but from this demo I have to say, I am extremely impressed. It seems that they have dialed in everything so that you are given the best range of possible values for each parameter. I like that they borrow that aspects of the roland design while giving you the capability of creating modern sounds. I think that if I had the funds I would definitely jump on this, I might even consider selling some vintage hardware to fund it. I really love the sound of wavetables through the roland-esque chorus. That is something I would do in my modular system a lot, but having it be polyphonic is brilliant.

If I was going to compare the raw sound of this with anything on the market, I’d say it’s similar, in a way, to the Pro 3.

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#21

Hi Gregg! Yes, I helped prove out the firmware. I thought it would be best to stop complaining about little niggles in synths and help get rid of some.

Given that I am happy using software, and have a modular, the UDO makes a great hardware synth. I’ve found it immediate, intuitive (so rare), and still rewards patience. ‘Low floor, high ceiling’ as I’ve heard it described. Would love to hear your experiences.

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#22

What you are hearing could be (in theory) because the UDO’s filter is similar to the Pro 3 Filter 1, based on the Prophet 6 filter, which in turn is a discrete design derived they claim from the SSM2040. Likewise the Synthesis Technology E440 is derived from that SSM design, and of course sounds great.

Definitely doesn’t sound like a Roland filter.

#23

Yeah, the filter doesn’t sound like Roland at all, it was the chorus that the folks at UDO said was based on Roland. You are right that the SSM filters are a big part of the similarity to the Pro 3. I hear that the Pro-3 is the same discrete filter in the Prophet 6, but it would make sense if it used the 2144 chips used in the prophet X and apparently the Super 6.

#24

Thanks, mine is due to be delivered on Wednesday, can’t wait!

AFAIK the filter chips are SSI 2144, modern lower noise/distortion versions of the SSM 2144 as used in the Mono/Poly and PPG Wave etc.

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#25

It would be rad if someone made a dedicated sampler with those chips, something that expands on the early EMU samplers, but with a similar architecture.

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#26

You could kind of recreate a modern version of that with 2X Synthesis Technology E440s plus Rossum Assimil8or.

#27

Yeah definitely plan on running my samplers through my Pro-2 for that reason, but in either example polyphony gets expensive very quickly. Anyway, I’m getting really off topic.

This synth just seems to combine the best features of every synth architecture out there. My only complaint is that it doesn’t seem like the arhcitecture is super flexible (Edit. It is apparently much more flexible than it initially appears). I guess that’s the tradeoff for the unique sound. Still I can imagine this being amazing with a modulation matrix.

#28

It does have a small mod matrix, or at least mod routing via the preset buttons. It works better than I expected.

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#29

Wow, that’s great. This just moved a little further up my list.

#30

Having a high pass filter is kind of critical for crazy modulations, so thank god they included one.

#31

Word is, even though have started shipping to people who bought via UK dealers, the USB over MIDI and Sequencer are both non-functional until the next firmware update, but apparently it’s coming soon.

#32

:crossed_fingers: Hoping they might one day make a desktop version :slightly_smiling_face:

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#33

Same here! I’d sell the regular one in a heartbeat if they did. Kinda bothers me that they include a keyboard on an MPE capable device and still require me to have another controller :-/

#34

I’m the opposite, I’ll sell mine if they ever make a 61 key version!

[EDIT] UDO Support page has been added to the website with info on firmware patches, presets and .pdf manual etc.

[EDIT] Just picked mine up from the UPS drop off, came a day early!

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#35

Mmmmm looks great in blue. I ordered black but tried to change to blue the other day and that would put me at the end of the line again so I passed for now. I’m torn. Also nice Germaniums. I just ordered a pair this morning myself. Upon writing this, I’m thinking I have a thing for blue haha. I am stoked to hear whatever you make with the super 6. :slight_smile:

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#36

The Germ Comps are my fave pieces of gear of all time, been in daily use for over a decade, appear on 99.9% of everything I have mastered since 2009! The TG2 is no slouch either.

Had more time with S6 yesterday, is great, just going through the presets, putting it in Manual mode, going through the manual while tweaking etc. The filters are insane, lovely, warm and vocal sounding sweeps.

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#37

What’s funny is I was just reading a post about someone mastering with them and a pulet back in 2009. You?! Hahah
I’m trying them on the mix bus :slight_smile: I’m a chandler fan. I was using the zener and mini mixer for a while and ltd1 for vocals and tg2 for guitars for a long time. Never tried the germs before though.

That’s so exciting. I can’t wait to hear it. I’ve been reading over the manual and I’m getting more amped by the day for it to arrive. (Give us a video please!)

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#38

That’s hilarious. :slight_smile: I haven’t added anything new to the mastering chain in about eight years now (Crookwood conversion/mastering console with the following analogue sandwich: pair of Germ Comps, Pullet passive EQ, TG2 for makeup gain, Dangerous Bax EQ, into ATC monitors). Very happy with it. I love the Chandler stuff too, can be very coloured but it’s an incredibly euphonic colour. :slight_smile: The Germ Comps can actually be very subtle too, I am very rarely doing more than 1.5dB gain reduction with them in mastering, more for their overall vibe than heavy compression/levelling.

Will spend more time with Super 6 today. I’ve never recorded a video for anything other than a screen grab, my daughter knows more about it so I would have to ask her! I wouldn’t be happy with a phone video for the audio, so would want a separate feed for the audio, and then would have to edit them together, and I really have no idea how to do that! I’d be far happier just recording some audio through the chain (TG2 DI is great for synths although I don’t like it so much for guitar and bass) and posting it, but I want to wait until MIDI over USB is working, will make it far less of a headache.

I successfully saved my first couple of sounds in the “2” bank, created the high frequency luscious BPF synth chords pads of my dreams. :slight_smile:

One weird thing today, in standard 12 voice mode (not “Binaural”), I am sometimes getting weird “ping” sounds when I hold down chords, like something is re-triggering, I’ll try and work out if it DDS or DDS2 or both, as it may be the DDS1 retrigger bug that’s mentioned in the known issues doc. Fingers crossed it gets sorted soon. I’m gonna collect all my impressions after a week and send a mail to UDO support with any weirdness.

P.S. I am crazy, so here is the list of Super 6 presets in the “1” bank, by name, taken from their file names…

UDO Super 6 Preset 1 List

Bank A1

p1_SuperHorns_GH.s6
p2_SchneidersMoodyArp_GH.s6
p3_SuperKeys_GH.s6
p4_SimpleButSolidBass_GH.s6
p5_oscillatorfestStrings_GH.s6
p6_GlassArp_GH.s6
p7_TinkleReleaseKeys_GH.s6
p8_PunchInTheFaceBass_GH.s6

Bank B1

p1_dwrbudr_GH.s6
p2_DuckChunksBass_GH.s6
p3_SinuousTineKeys_GH.s6
p4_SmooverRave_GH.s6
p5_SuperBooth_Maj3rd_Arp_GH.s6
p6_FiveSyncLead_GH.s6
p7_SwingersArp_GH.s6
p8_FizzyReleases_GH.s6

Bank C1

p1_PushPedal_Pad_DZ.s6
p2_Warmth_Lead_DZ.s6
p3_Starburst_Keys_DZ.s6
p4_SadSweep_Pads_DZ.s6
p5_87Bells_Keys_DZ.s6
p6_Synthwave_Runner_BASS_DH.s6
p7_Ready_Player_2_KEYS_DH.s6
p8_Get_Busy_Living_ARPEGGIO_DH.s6

Bank D1

p1_Vanquished_Monster_STRINGS_DH.s6
p2_US_OUTPOST_31_BASS_DH.s6
p3_Were_You_Bitten_KEYS_DH.s6
p4_Turbo_Challenge_BASS_DH.s6
p5_Yesterdays_Tomorrow_KEYS_DH.s6
p6_Oculus_Strings_DZ.s6
p7_Sold_My_Juno_KEYS_DH.s6
p8_Cobras_Rage_LEAD_DH.s6

Bank E1

p1_Luna_Swim_PAD_DH.s6
p2_Sporty_Bass_MJ.s6
p3_Canada_MJ.s6
p4_In_The_Valleys_MJ.s6
p5_Jupiter_Res_MJ.s6
p6_Bell_Harp_MJ.s6
p7_I_Remember_MJ.s6
p8_Hit_The_Pedal_MJ.s6

Bank F1

p1_Daft_Sync_MJ.s6
p2_Blemish_MJ.s6
p3_Paddy_McPad_MJ.s6
p4_Decay_Res_MJ.s6
p5_5th_Element_MJ.s6
p6_Pompous_String_MJ.s6
p7_Pedal_For_303_MJ.s6
p8_Plain_Brass_MJ.s6

Bank G1

p1_Tune_DDS2_MJ.s6
p2_FluffBass_BC.s6
p3_Crickets_BC.s6
p4_Terrify.s6
p5_SoftLanding_BC.s6
p6_Punch_Brass_Ld.s6
p7_Aether_BC.s6
p8_AmbiPad_BC.s6

Bank H1

p1_GoAheadLeap_Brass_DZ.s6
p2_Fearsync.s6
p3_Morphing_Arp.s6
p4_Dawn_BC.s6
p5_Mystic4ths_BC.s6
p6_StringSwells_Pad_JS.s6
p7_RandomClunge.s6
p8_TakeMeHome_GH.s6

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