#43

i’ve been also curious about scanners for some time but never got around to getting one. in addition to aforementioned ones the only other 2 that i’m aware of are toppobrillo mixiplexer and synthetic sound labs segwencer.

it just occurred to me that similar effects could be achieved with a quad VCA / quad LFO combination (and i tend to double the same sequence to 2 oscillators and then use 2 different envelopes to blend them, similar idea), i should try this with modcan quad lfo - should be interesting using it in phase shift mode… i guess you lose CV control over the amplitude shift like in a dedicated scanner, but something similar should be doable with, say, ansible + teletype combo.

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#44

I’ve done things similar to what you’re describing using a quad LFO and/or some other multiple EG type patch through multiple VCAs/LPGs. In fact, I collected a small rack of the aforementioned passive LPGs for this very purpose. I’ve had some fun placing them downstream from a fixed filter bank as well.

How would you combine that with panning? It’s the scanning + panning that really sweetens scanning I think.

As an aside, regarding the above hosannas for the Optomix, yesterday, while waiting around for stuff, I spent about twenty minutes with a Make Noise black gold shared system, and focused on the Optomix, triggering it from a Maths, and let me testify to the verity of those praises.

Why am I being all scriptural and shit?

All the Josquin I’ve been working on is getting to me.

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#45

continuing with the idea of using a quad VCA you could just route the 4 outputs into a mixer that has panning, something like circuit abbey unify. might be even more interesting to add vc control over panning. a vc matrix mixer (like 4ms vca matrix) is probably the easiest to use for this though. modcan quad lfo into 2 malekko/wiard JAGs into 4ms vca matrix with the 4 outputs panned differently going into a mixer could be a really cool patch - i should try that!

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#46

Cool stuff.

I think when I asked earlier I was somehow assuming you were considering doing this without a mixer with pan.

Interesting you mention matrix mixers. I have an 8x4 matrix mixer incoming shortly. :grin:

I’ve also got a possible custom mixer in the works, to my specs: six ins with level and pan, stereo master bus aux sends and returns, modular and line level outs, and a headphone amp. No CV controls; don’t need it. Very compact.

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#47

@Larrea, I’d be interested in learning more about both these mixers once they are with you.

#48

The 8x4 Matrix Mixer is NLC’s Cluster:

The other mixer I want to keep slightly under wraps for the moment, only out of respect for the designer. It’s not a done deal yet and may not work out, but if it does get finished and works as we intend, it’ll most likely be offered as a regular module.

I will definitely let you all know then when/if that happens.

On another VCA note, @kisielk, quick technical question: I picked up a Quad VCA last week (and my third Quadratt, and the Random Tools, another 1U mult!; LOVING these 1U modules), and if I have a CV source patched in to CV 1, and I want to prevent that from cascading down to channels 2+, a simple dummy plug in CV 2 did the trick.

Is there a better way I’m not seeing? Perhaps a jumper option to remove cascading? There’s no manual on your site yet.

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#49

Cluster is so many HP! But I’m kinda drooling over it.

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#50

Same here. Was hoping for a standalone matrix mixer with those specs. Might actually slim down my eurorack further, so that NLC matrix sure won’t work.

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#51

Only had Streams when my system was very small, definitely didn’t use it to its fullest potential.

Sold my Optomix for an LxD, pretty satisfied. I didn’t use the damp control too much and the vactrols in my LxD sound much better.

It’s also worth mentioning the Double Andore MkII. Definitely has the wildest cross-routing possibilities of any VCA I’ve seen.

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#52

You know you want it! :grin:

As do you! :grin:

Seriously though, as I’m trying to keep things in check size-wise (going to sell stuff soon too), my strategy with the Cluster is to put it in a 42hp skiff I already have, and run DC power to it from a 4ms Row Power 40 (already tested it; it works), and thus use it as a bit of a floater, utility module. It won’t take up more space in any of my full instruments, and can be easily carried from one to the other.

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#53

the problem with VCable matrix mixers is where to find enough related mod sources… which is where 4xTXo would come in handy! or 8 in your case…

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#54

As for mixers with VCAs, I’m considering splurging and building out an 8 channel, 2 group Frap Tools CGM system. It’s got all the right features (2 sends, sub groups, cv control, mutes, headphones, etc) and is expandable. Plus each channel is a standalone VCA with a direct out which I would use for multi-track recording.

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#55

Got that covered!

Plus, it can double as an alternative FX send/return system.

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#56

Yes, a dummy plug is the way to do it. Or patch it into channel 4 and use the other 3 channels for things not controlled by CV.

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#57

that’s how i typically use my VCA matrix - 2 outs to mixer, 2 to effects coming back on 2 of the inputs for feedback/crossfeeding. great with delays!

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#58

@jasonw22 @myecholalia, my strategy worked; my mobile matrix mixer, powered off the extra D.C. out on the 4ms row power. It works like a dream.

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#59

Dang. It’s even sexier than I imagined it would be.

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#60

Looks great. I assume the jacks at the junctions are CV controls?

#61

Indeed.

Indeed.

Indeed.

That should be 20.

#62

i have 5HP left in my small system for a LPG, really want to pair my mannequins modules to generate bongoish percussive sounds. not sure whether to get 2 x Meng Qi DPLPG or a MN LxD?

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