Man. He is just so good. Having owned a few verbos modules, I have to say, I’m super envious of those who have an all verbos system. There is a very large part of me that wants to end up someday with a system that’s just Verbos and Mannequins/Monome (but replacing the Verbos CO with my beloved Furthrrrr Generator), and maybe a few Make Noise tossed in for good measure.

Yeah, I sure would love a Verbos Composition system, but I just can’t really justify it. I’ve got enough stuff as it is, with at least three major modules still to go (Teletype, Rossum Morpheus, and probably a Rossum Assimil8or).

I know the red knobs and paint scheme are aesthetically polarizing for a lot of people, and while red isn’t my go-to for anything, the aesthetics of the Verbos Composition System, with those cases, are just sublime I think.

Agreed. I’m lucky, I guess, in that I’m very okay with a Frankenstein system when it comes to manufacturers and aesthetics…I’m also one of those goons who still plasters stickers all over computers, so I guess I haven’t grown out of that just yet!

Curious to see what rig you’ve got? I’d honestly replace a lot of kit with the verbos stuff, such that it could live peacefully amongst itself. I feel like I’ve seen videos from Worwell (amazing youtube channel, and is on Muffs sometimes as well, I think, though I don’t go there as much of late!) where he’s got a self-contained verbos section.

One thing that really appeals to me about this is its interface/mixer. Something about the ARP 2500 will always stay close to my heart and this harkens to that design in a way i think.

I’ve been thinking about acquiring one just to use as a standalone filter, much akin to the KOMA FT-201 filter that is in guitar pedal form a la moogerfooger.

Anybody use this in a very restricted, dedicated, “minimal” way? i.e. audio in, audio out? Or, not in an elaborate/extensive modular set-up?

Anybody use this at all?

Have you guys seen the Fumuna by Frapp? I was just about to grab a Bark but then this was announced and ive been talking to the designer - 16 (!) 48db dual band spectral processor with some nifty features and amazingly good specs…its a but more pricey at $1000

Yup, I’ve been following the development of Fumana very closely, and I should have one as soon as it will be available (it should ship to retailers next week). It’s the best specced one and if it’s half as good as the Sapèl it’s going to be awesome. http://frap.tools/products/fumana/

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I’d like to add that from a spectral transfer (aka vocoding) point of view the bark filter can do six bands to six bands, while the fumana can do full sixteen bands to sixteen bands.

If you think about it, six bands to six bands sounds a bit like a joke.

Really looking forward to hearing how you get on with this. It’s probably top of my list of purchases.

Thank you for the heads up about this module- seems like it has more control as well as more filter and spectral processing capabilities yah?

I’m sure people will be doing comparisons in the coming months when it ships and starts being used.

One thing I’m curious about is the Bark scale compared to the scaling of frequencies on the Fumana. It’s refreshing for me that an instrument maker consciously integrates psycho-acoustics into their design. Maybe the extra four bands on the Fumana makes up for a possible discrepancy in this regard.

I like the LED’s on the Verbos…

I finally got the Fumana! I’ve uploaded pics of the Fumana and a video of a performance I did with it last night in the pictures thread :slight_smile:

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The Buchla 296e is absolutely nuckin futs! I love watching the LEDs move

Bump! I’ve got a line on one of these, and wondering how it’s holding up in folks’ rigs. It’s not a module I would have looked at otherwise, but I’m intrigued!

There’s not a huge wealth of information online. Any reason to be cautious?

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I’ve read anecdotal reports of some quality control issues with Verbos modules in general lately and very slow response times (with just basic communication) regarding fixes. I have been eyeing this module for a while (it sounds gorgeous) but have significant concerns about support.

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It’s nice, but I’d always pick the Frap Tools Fumana over it. I’ve had both in my rack for a while and it was an incredibly clear decision for me. Basically, the Bark can’t do anything that the Fumana can’t, but the Fumana can do a ton that the Bark can’t. Specifically the spectral analysis is incredibly useful. The Fumana has two sets of 16 bandpass filters - one set that filters the main input sound and one set that is only there for analysis (and can have a different input!). The output from the analysis filterbank is normaled to the VCAs controlling the filters of the main filter bank and thus allows for spectral transfer from one signal to another. You’d need two Bark Processors for this. It’s a very powerful tool - I didn’t originally had it on my radar as much, but it is one of the main ways I use it nowadays.

Of course, the spacing of the bands is slightly different between the two, but I didn’t find that to be a very relevant factor in the general kind of tone-sculpting that I did with these (ymmv) - the basic sound was relatively similar to my ears, and neither sounded “better”.

That said, they both sound great and if you don’t care for the spectral transfer features of the Fumana as much and have a good offer on a used Bark, you aren’t going wrong with the Bark Processor at all. It’s a really nice module in itself. I just wanted to point out that there’s an alternative worth considering.

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It does seem like the Fumana comes up in any conversation about the bark. But it also seems like the fumana is pretty tough to track down, and quite a bit more expensive (at least more than the offer I’m looking at).

I’m probably more or less trying to figure out if I’d have a good use for a fixed filter bank. My filtration experience is limited to LPF’s and the various bandpass options on the QPAS. I really enjoy the kind of splashy spectral content that comes with sweeping the “scan” knob on the bark.

I dunno.

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It really comes down to the focus of your system. Both fumana and the bark are expensive and large and need some support modules to get the most out of them (granted you can also manually play them too).

I’ve built a system around fumana and adore it but it fulfilled an idea that is part of what got me into euro in the first place, so the cost and space is worth it for me (though I’m still trying to figure out the best case solution to house a relatively large avg. HP system).

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My current work centers around taking one or two sound sources, radically re-interpreting them, and sending 6-7 instances into a sequential switch or two. Then “composing” with the switch. This kind of filtration would seem to fill a gap, or at least introduce some new timbral possibilities.

Lots of potential uses with outputs from individual bands breaking up a sound for parallel processing or the envelop followers providing related modulation across a patch.

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Next batch due in March apparently. Presumably take that with a bit of a pinch of salt, but it came from Frap Tools themselves.

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I feel like a Frap Tools spokesperson or whatever but I’ve experienced their timelines to be pretty accurate, even over the last year!

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