#28

Well, I can’t really say that I don’t like the sound of the Bark Filter. Probably what happens has more to do with my impatience and permanent dissatisfaction in the search for new sounds. The Bark Filter has a very distinctive sound, and this can be good and bad in my case. Regardless of all this, if I look back, I have done things with him that have convinced me quite a bit …

Of the Complex Oscillator however I do not get tired. I am actually thinking of buying a second CO. It has a very thick sound. Anyone out there with 2 CO? On one thing I think we are all almost in agreement … The MANNEQUINS / VERBOS combination is very good. They complement each other really well .

This is an álbum I made using a CO, HO, JFs, and 3Ss …

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#29

I see a lot of people talking about combining the Amp & Tone with other Verbs modules like the Complex Oscillator or the Harmonic Oscillator. Having already the Three Sisters filter and the Bark Filter, do you think that the Amp & Tone can give me something different?

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#30

Nice patches here !

I guess the Verbos modules need some time before having satisfied results !

Here’s one of my last where the main voice is from HO and additional ones from Mangroves.

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#31

Personally, I have all the modules you mentioned here (two Amp and Tone actually). The Amp and Tone covers different ground than the filters you mentioned and is more of a characterful VCA/LPG in the Buchla tradition than a full on filter (1 vs 4 pole filtering). I often use it to shape a sound before sending it to a filter. Would recommend picking one up. And yes it is wonderful in conjunction with the Harmonic and Complex Oscillators.

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#32

Thanks a lot! I think I’ll give it a try!
I have the option to buy the new ATC new or a second hand old one. I’ve seen that the sound is different in part because the old one has vactrols. I don’t know if this is correct, but which one you guys have? Have you tried both modules and see any big difference? I prefer the small form factor of the new unit, but I would like to get the best sound from it …

#33

I have old version and like how it sounds especially adding some overdrive and cute resonance. I dont know how vactor change the sound or envelopes in it

#34

I have both and they are different but great in their own way.

#35

I also have Sisters and Bark, along with two Amp & Tone. Echoing what @staticmass said, it covers different ground than Sisters and Bark. It definitely can still work as a LPF, with some interesting resonance and saturation that can be used in an additive kind of way, but I think it does best being used along with other filters. What’s great about it is its timbre and tone shaping abilities, the attenuverters, normalisation of exponential input for level into tone, the linear input over level, and input gain control. Makes for a very playable, very flexible LPG!

I haven’t tried the old one but I’ve read plenty of accounts that say it’s sweeter sounding. The new version is quite aggressive (though it can be dialled back easily, or give more to other filters to chew on). The vactrol in the old one will naturally give you a slower decay too, if you like that sound (I certainly do, though I’ve got Jolin Lab Agogo in that case to make up for it, and in my other case I have QMMG, LxD, and Optomix).

Just uploaded my first video with two Amp & Tone:

The envelope followers running into the Agogo LPG is great!

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#36

That’s pretty nice! I love the filtered organ kind of sounds from the HO.

A couple of days ago I ordered a SERGE RESONANT EQ and a VCFQ, but the next one in my list will be the AMP&TONE!

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#37

Great thread, nice to see some discussion on Verbos as I don’t think they get as much credit as they’re due.
I managed to complete my 7U verbose system about 18 months ago after I was lucky enough to support Mark Verbos at a live modular event and heard his Verbos system on a massive club system … it sounded immense! (I put the link to Mark’s liveset at the bottom, really recommend watching it)

The multi-delay & random sampling are my favourite modules of his & I use them a lot in the patches I make with this system.

I was recently fortunate enough to have a track included in the latest Tone Science compilation & this was made solely on my 7U Verbos system (here’s the system & link to the track):

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Mark Verbos liveset:

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#38

having a lot of fun using the multi delay as a 3 input cv delay/mixer with the manual mix out and four burst outputs that you can use to ‘strum’ the asr of the random sampling or the slew trigger in of the cvp. lots of options in a dusg style patch with envelope follower outputs that can act as triggers and cv control of the delay time. so many polyrhythms :partying_face:

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#39

Amazing track! Well, the whole album is amazing! Did you really only use HO JF, Sisters and Mimeophon (and I guess Ansible)? Is it a single take? Or multi-pass? It seems that there are many voices!

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#40

I really want a Voltage Multistage.

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#41

i picked one up earlier this year to pair with percussion modules, inspired by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBig-8JB6M. having a configurable gate stream and two voltage sources in such a fluid layout is immeasurably useful. my multi-stage makes its way into every patch, drone or otherwise. modulating step time is also great. i wish verbos put a little more energy into their manuals, because “enable”, “sustain”, and “strobe” functionalities are opaque.

if i could change one thing, i would add a dedicated clock out that does not respect the step out toggles. for rhythmic work, i clock externally using “advance”.

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#42

this marf cookbook is really helpful with the vms, same with the actual manual for it. one trick I found the other day is multing your external clock into enable, and then taking a cable from enable into advance will give you the main clock out and ref output like you would normally get from internal clocking (edit oops I must be remembering this wrong because any clock into advance will give you normal gate and ref outs). taking the individual gate out of step 6 into strobe will give you a 5 step sequence. hold strobe for 2 seconds and you can control the stages with the analog knob or input. hope that helps! i’m still deep in the trenches with the vms but loving the complex envelopes and less traditional sequencing with it

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#43

Thanks so much! Yes to all those questions, just those modules plus ansible played manually, and it was a single take too. I used a really long delay on Mimeophon, clocked to ansible, which creates a sense of polyphony when it starts to repeat back on itself, creating harmonic layers. The HO also helps a lot with this.

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#44

I’m noticing a lot of Verbos systems tend to omit the DFP filter and tend to lean more on the ATC as their primary filter. I love my ATC and can get quite a lot of millage from it, but I’d really like to try out the DFP. currently I have an E440 as a secondary filter, which is really nice, but only acts as a lowpass, therefore considering swapping it out as I’d like to have a high pass filter too. what are peoples thoughts on filters that play nice with Verbos? is worth allocating 21hp for the DFP? it would pretty much complete my Verbos system

#45

dlp = dual four pole?

#46

sorry for the typo, yes, I meant dual four pole. I have edited the post :slight_smile:

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#47

o problem! just making sure i know what you meant. To me the dual four pole sounds amazing in demos but i feel like it might be better as a master hi pass and low pass than a part of the patch, like i might use a low pass gate.