#21

I’ve been using VERBOS modules for over a year. I have not managed to connect 100% with some of them. This is the case with the Bark Filter. I was very interested in the possibility of obtaining envelopes for each frequency, but not so much its use as a filter. However, the sound of the Complex Oscillator and Harmonic Oscillator seems BRUTAL to me. They are very organic modules and their possibilities are immense. Even with the Complex I’m tempted to buy a Foundation Oscillator, especially now that the Mangrove is going to take a while to be available again …

#22

I was thinking about this the other day. Have you tried it and gotten any successful results? Figured it could create some really nice evolvong envelopes if you modulated the timbre of the input gradually.

#24

Yes, the envelopes generated by the Bark Filter are very interesting and organic. It really is how I have used the Bark Filter the most. I usually connect my Radio Music with different sounds to one of the inputs of the Bark Filter. I use the different envelopes of each frequency to open VCA’s inside my ER301 with samples taken from field recordings. Very interesting variations are achieved.

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#25

Here’s a playlist of pieces featuring the Harmonic Oscillator as the primary voice. It’s one of my favorite voices!

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#26

Sweet! I have an MMI 295 (sort of working) that I was thinking about trying this out on. Need to pick up an EF though… Or just blow everything on the Bark Filter :sweat_smile:
Love the idea of using samples into it though!

#27

Speaking of Mangroves (which actually were designed around an analog woodwind modelling oscillator design), you can get some very barrel-formant folding and octave shift effects from a Joranalogue Compare 2 (as mentioned above), which can really enhance the woodwind timbres from Verbos modules. There also seems to be something similar in the timbre control on Foundation Oscillator to the folders in Mangrove. Needless to say, Verbos oscillators pair very well with Mannequins!
I’m also really impressed with how the Amp & Tone helps shaping woodwind timbres too (with many other sounds in between too, of course).

Agreed with Just Friends playing very well with Harmonic Oscillator! Here’s a track I wrote using only HO, JF, Sisters and Mimeophon, manually sequenced by kria:

@Cromatica45 You don’t like the sound of the Bark Filter, or more that you just want to use it for the followers? Why not use both at the same time? :stuck_out_tongue: I think it has a really unique and beautiful sound, and can really work with shaping the “brutal” sounds of the HO and CO (and FO for that matter). All of their oscillators also pair surprisingly well with the Amp & Tone too for bringing out subtleties and softening more aggressive tones, which also can really bring out the flavour of the Bark Filter. I guess what I’ve found in my experiences is that Verbos modules seem to bring out the best in each other, with some interesting interactivity between the saturation accessible in each module at various stages of the signal chain.

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#28

Well, I can’t really say that I don’t like the sound of the Bark Filter. Probably what happens has more to do with my impatience and permanent dissatisfaction in the search for new sounds. The Bark Filter has a very distinctive sound, and this can be good and bad in my case. Regardless of all this, if I look back, I have done things with him that have convinced me quite a bit …

Of the Complex Oscillator however I do not get tired. I am actually thinking of buying a second CO. It has a very thick sound. Anyone out there with 2 CO? On one thing I think we are all almost in agreement … The MANNEQUINS / VERBOS combination is very good. They complement each other really well .

This is an álbum I made using a CO, HO, JFs, and 3Ss …

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#29

I see a lot of people talking about combining the Amp & Tone with other Verbs modules like the Complex Oscillator or the Harmonic Oscillator. Having already the Three Sisters filter and the Bark Filter, do you think that the Amp & Tone can give me something different?

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#30

Nice patches here !

I guess the Verbos modules need some time before having satisfied results !

Here’s one of my last where the main voice is from HO and additional ones from Mangroves.

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#31

Personally, I have all the modules you mentioned here (two Amp and Tone actually). The Amp and Tone covers different ground than the filters you mentioned and is more of a characterful VCA/LPG in the Buchla tradition than a full on filter (1 vs 4 pole filtering). I often use it to shape a sound before sending it to a filter. Would recommend picking one up. And yes it is wonderful in conjunction with the Harmonic and Complex Oscillators.

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#32

Thanks a lot! I think I’ll give it a try!
I have the option to buy the new ATC new or a second hand old one. I’ve seen that the sound is different in part because the old one has vactrols. I don’t know if this is correct, but which one you guys have? Have you tried both modules and see any big difference? I prefer the small form factor of the new unit, but I would like to get the best sound from it …

#33

I have old version and like how it sounds especially adding some overdrive and cute resonance. I dont know how vactor change the sound or envelopes in it

#34

I have both and they are different but great in their own way.

#35

I also have Sisters and Bark, along with two Amp & Tone. Echoing what @staticmass said, it covers different ground than Sisters and Bark. It definitely can still work as a LPF, with some interesting resonance and saturation that can be used in an additive kind of way, but I think it does best being used along with other filters. What’s great about it is its timbre and tone shaping abilities, the attenuverters, normalisation of exponential input for level into tone, the linear input over level, and input gain control. Makes for a very playable, very flexible LPG!

I haven’t tried the old one but I’ve read plenty of accounts that say it’s sweeter sounding. The new version is quite aggressive (though it can be dialled back easily, or give more to other filters to chew on). The vactrol in the old one will naturally give you a slower decay too, if you like that sound (I certainly do, though I’ve got Jolin Lab Agogo in that case to make up for it, and in my other case I have QMMG, LxD, and Optomix).

Just uploaded my first video with two Amp & Tone:

The envelope followers running into the Agogo LPG is great!

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#36

That’s pretty nice! I love the filtered organ kind of sounds from the HO.

A couple of days ago I ordered a SERGE RESONANT EQ and a VCFQ, but the next one in my list will be the AMP&TONE!

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#37

Great thread, nice to see some discussion on Verbos as I don’t think they get as much credit as they’re due.
I managed to complete my 7U verbose system about 18 months ago after I was lucky enough to support Mark Verbos at a live modular event and heard his Verbos system on a massive club system … it sounded immense! (I put the link to Mark’s liveset at the bottom, really recommend watching it)

The multi-delay & random sampling are my favourite modules of his & I use them a lot in the patches I make with this system.

I was recently fortunate enough to have a track included in the latest Tone Science compilation & this was made solely on my 7U Verbos system (here’s the system & link to the track):

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Mark Verbos liveset:

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#38

having a lot of fun using the multi delay as a 3 input cv delay/mixer with the manual mix out and four burst outputs that you can use to ‘strum’ the asr of the random sampling or the slew trigger in of the cvp. lots of options in a dusg style patch with envelope follower outputs that can act as triggers and cv control of the delay time. so many polyrhythms :partying_face:

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#39

Amazing track! Well, the whole album is amazing! Did you really only use HO JF, Sisters and Mimeophon (and I guess Ansible)? Is it a single take? Or multi-pass? It seems that there are many voices!

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#40

I really want a Voltage Multistage.

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#41

i picked one up earlier this year to pair with percussion modules, inspired by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBig-8JB6M. having a configurable gate stream and two voltage sources in such a fluid layout is immeasurably useful. my multi-stage makes its way into every patch, drone or otherwise. modulating step time is also great. i wish verbos put a little more energy into their manuals, because “enable”, “sustain”, and “strobe” functionalities are opaque.

if i could change one thing, i would add a dedicated clock out that does not respect the step out toggles. for rhythmic work, i clock externally using “advance”.

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