#424

honestly i think its kinda rude to jump to open source as a solution to technical issues without explicit knowledge of the developers’ intention re licensing etc :man_shrugging:

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#425

I think I cleared the tape once at some point but I’m not sure I did it after updating the last time. I still need to update to the latest though, so I’ll test that first and if I still have issues I’ll clear the tape and report what happens. I don’t have time with the modular every day though, as a couple of little human beings tend to monopolize my free time these days so it might take a few days to do that :slight_smile:.

Btw, I had to search this thread to find the info about how to clear a tape, that should probably be added to the manual…

Edit - about the crackles : they tend to happen especially at the loop point and are consistent from one play to the other, and I think I got more in the middle of the loop when layering over existing audio. I’ll try to record something before updating the firmware.

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#426

So, how do you do it?
Why not repeat the instructions here.

(I agree with you that this should be in the manual. Along with: how do you get rid of Izzy, that keeps coming back after every restart, despite the fact that one completed the tutorial sequence…)

#427

Hold Record + Down on the toggle while powering up. This clears the currently selected tape.

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#428

In fairness, how to clear a tape is in the top post on this thread, as well as on the “firmware update” page for W/ on the Mannequins site…

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#429

i’m sending the email with the bug report, but here are steps to reproduce the bug 100% of the time, in case any one else wants to confirm the crackling audio in 1.2.1:

  1. setup a decaying delay/looper as seen in this post. with any kind of decent negative voltage, the audio crackles almost immediately. it also occasionally generates quiet pops, similar to hearing a cable plugged in/out of a mixer.

  2. now flip the play direction of the delay via teletype WS.PLAY, so the delay/looper is now playing in reverse. this results in an immediate loud pop, which might repeat itself occasionally. i think it might be happening right on the loop point.

it’s an awful, loud sound, especially if you have one w/ running into another, as i do (to build up unsynced delay washes), and controlling them with teletype via WS.PLAY commands.

this bug is a bit of a showstopper–i can live with the crackling audio that occurs at all levels of negative THAT voltage and forward play direction; i can work around it as ambient grit. but the loud pops in REV (and to some degree in FWD) mean i can’t use the realtime play direction changes in my upcoming show.

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#430

It’s definitely not on the firmware update page on the Mannequins site. I have that one opened and checked it first…

I just reproduced the clicks/crackle using one attenuated droning output of Just Friends (at 20% to 50% of normal volume) into W/. I get a very audible click at the loop point and then get more crackles when layering sounds. As I said, these are already quite a bit attenuated using one channel of an Intellijel Quadratt and this should definitely not be an headroom issue…

I have no battery left in the handheld recorder I use for the modular but I’ll try to record the loop tomorrow or in a few days.

#431

And I just cleared the tape and tried the same experience again and I still get a loud enough click at the loop point and crackles when layering a very attenuated Just Friends. I got the same with a sine output from an STO.

I tried with some other modules and while I still got the audible click on the loop point (when looping a droning note) the crackles appear much less : Radio Music and Erica Pico VCO. I know that the Radio Music’s output is not very strong so that might actually be somehow volume/headroom related…

#432

Remove post please. Thanks

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#433

I just added it there moments ago after reading the above. It was previously on the Firmware Update page and I removed it last week, erroneously thinking I’d moved it across to the ‘latest update’ page. Apologies for the momentary lapse.

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#434

As far as I read, the comment about open sourcing the firmware was phrased as question, not a demand, so no, not rude at all.

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#435

Yeah, the reverse pop has been persistent for some time. I had to abandon that usage for some recent shows. I lived with the risk of the crackles though…

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#436

Experiencing this too. Putting the output through a LP filter seems to reduce the “click” sound.

#437

Thanks for the reports.

The pops at loop points are something we are aware of and working on for future updates.

Can you verify that you are only hearing them a) when you record over loop points in reverse, regardless of whether you then play audio forward or backwards, or b) when you record audio over loop points in the forward direction followed by playing it back in reverse?

There should not be pops when recording audio over loop points and playing the tape over those loop points in the forward direction, but if there are other cases you think we are missing providing audio samples of those clicks at the loop points would be great.

Also, we are still not able to reproduce any “crackling” independent from crossing loop points and the expected clipping distortion from repeatedly overdubbing the same section of tape without attenuating the tape via dub.THAT. As such, if you have an example of this or are experiencing this, any more information about when it occurs and any audio recordings would be extremely helpful!!

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#438

How are we all doing?

I’m assuming that a quiet thread is s good sign!

I have to admit that I’ve been pretty busy with work and as such haven’t had as much time with my system this past week or so. That said, mostly smooth sailing since starting fresh with v 1.2.1 and clean tapes.

There was a strang bit of playback level drop that I got while modulating voltage into THAT to change play speeds and feedback levels. I know that it should change playback volume but it got stuck at a low playback volume for a bit until I stopped and started playback several times with no cable to THAT. I could not duplicate on purpose, so its likely an issue somewhere between the seat and the steering wheel. Also system had been up for several hours doing a generative thing in the background while I was puttering around the house.

Edit: was also chiming in to report that I haven’t gotten the clicks and stutters on short loops like I used to since updating to 1.2.1 and starting with fresh tapes/clearing all old cues.

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#439

Just got my new W/(my first one got messed up somehow and only recorded distortion). Now it was working ok, until I today. Now it doesn’t record any audio onto the tape. I think my SD is messed up because clearing a tape isn’t working either.

Any help would be appreciated.

#440

Tell us more details about what’s happening?

#441

Well there’s not much to tell besides it’s not recording any audio.

I press record, hit play and when done I rewind to find nothing has been recorded. I think my card is corrupt. Mainly because erasing a tape (record+down+turn on) does not erase the tape anymore(I can still here fragments from material recording a few days back).

#442

Progress: it is now recording, but only spits out harsh digital noise. Card is definitely corrupted.

#443

¯_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe so. I was hoping I could be helpful by seeing whether your lights were behaving oddly.