#472

it is now downloadable. the clicks are in the recorded material.
you are correct, it is was overwrite, not overdub.
i am assuming it is the previously recorded material, it felt similar in sound. those are tiny blips though and i am not completely sure.

here are the full contents of tape 2 recorded as wav
it has a more extreme example of the clipping and overwriting clicks

https://www.drop box.com/s/x9jv8mne1o2moo7/help%20w%20wav%20full.wav?dl=0

just now, i switched to tape 3 and am unable to recreate the behavior. i switched to tape 2, fast forwarded to a blank area, and am unable to recreate the behavior. i havent cleared tapes yet.

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#473

Hi all. First post here. Glad to join lines :wink:

I got a used w/ couple of weeks ago. Started to really like how it makes me interact with the modular. But yesterday I came across an unpleasant discovery - i can no longer record without clicks and crackles. Every new recording I make gets distorted briefly, sometimes at loop points sometimes not.
It wasn’t like that before. W/ clicked occasionally on cue points but mostly it was barely noticeable. Now it’s not really possible to make anything but glitch music with it. :space_invader:
here’s a link to a video I took of the issue:

I really hope there’s a solution for this problem as I have planned to use it for my performance next week. :slight_smile:

#474

I’m sure @voidstar can answer better than me (you might also drop an email, see W/ Firmware Update (v1.2.1))
Have you tried clearing the tape (see bottom of page here)? Do you know if it’s on the latest firmware?

  • Select the tape you wish to clear
  • Turn off your synthesizer
  • Hold record + down and turn on your synthesizer
  • The orange play light will flash, press it, then press the matching lights to confirm you really want to clear it!
  • W/ will now reboot to that same tape, now cleared of all data
#475

Thanks for a quick reply! I’ll sure drop an email to whimsicalraps.

Yes, i’ve tried clearing the tape, doesn’t help.

I asked the previous owner if it’s up to date and he assured me on that. But is there a way to check the fw?

#476

I’m pretty sure there’s no indicators to tell the FW, think the only way to be sure would be to update it :slightly_smiling_face:

(I think I had something similar on a previous FW, but after updating & clearing tape, no problems. Before that, I would run it into an HP filter which eliminated the click).

#477

Hi there! New here, and really interested about this module… seems to be so creative… But prior to order one, and after reading this whole conversation, i wanted to get your thoughts about the final “robustness” of the firmware.
Understand that the last firmware iteration ironed out lots of bugs. Understand also that some strange behaviour can certainly still occur.
In it current state, do you feel that the W/ is usable, and reliable for what it is advertised?
I mean, capturing audio of sketches in a linear fashion, and at some point, jamming with it in a loop fashion way?
I’m certainly not a CV wizard or mad experimentation scientist, i doubt that i’m gonna push the module over its limits… but who knows.
Thanks for your input :slight_smile:

#478

It is certainly usable - i havent had any bugs whilst using it on the latest firmware

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#479

It can; on mine it does.

Usable - yes. Reliable - depends how you define “reliable” as in how much is enough for you. I wouldn’t exactly call it mission-critical-robust. If you want to use it in a live performance, there seems to be a higher risk to it than with other modules. Less reliable than a Clouds or a Morphagene in my experience.

That’s its basic use right? Provided you don’t run into old recording bits, it works well. If you get comfortable with the UI, it’s a fairly quick process to layer stuff. Mind those clicks though…

We don’t know what its limits are… Right now certainly it can get into a bit of a state if you push it, but I’ve never been able to provide steps to replicate.

Anyone know and willing to share what’s on the cards for W/?

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#480

thanks for this overview. Is the batch number have any responsibility in the behaviour of the module? Also do I have to install the last firmware prior to the first warm-up?
those clicks are that annoying? due to no zero cross loop point?

#481

As I understand it, no, the batch number isn’t relevant. I would certainly install the latest firmware, but I don’t think you need to do that prior to first warm up. Yes, that it the reason for the clicks. Also, worth clearing the tapes from time to time.

#482

thanks for those precision :slight_smile: still thinking it’s a good choice?

#483

for you to decide, sorry.

#484

ok :slight_smile: thanks!

#485

I should probably read this whole thread but I’m hoping to bypass that to save time…

So is there a stable version of the w/ firmware yet, and if so, how do I find and install it?

Thanks!

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#486

the current firmware is stable. By which I mean I don’t doubt there are still small bugs, but lockups are very rare and I trust it to behave when performing. The update instructions are linked in the top post :wink:

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#487

I just got my new w/ today and I’m experiencing similar issues. I’ve not even placed any cue points yet and I’m getting these clicks all the time. I’ve tried lots of times but I haven’t managed to get one single recording without these pretty harsh glitches.

Judging from the sound (short, sudden skips) it could be something like buffer underruns (at least that’s what they sound like when using JACK on Linux). However, the clicks always appear at the same point of the recorded sample, so I guess something goes wrong when recording/writing the data…

I’ve already tried deleting the tapes and I’ve also upgraded to the newest firmware (which I guess was on the module anyways, since I bought it completely new).

Does anyone around here have any idea how to solve this? I would appreciate any help, can’t wait to really get started w/ w/…

#488

as a workaround, do things change when you change to one of the other tapes?

#489

After failing with tapes 1 and 2 it seemed to work fine with tape 3 at first, but now it’s also clicking over there…

I also think that some of the clicks haven’t been there when playing back for the first time but came in later, but I’m not 100% sure and haven’t managed to reproduce that behaviour yet…

#490

Wanted to chime in as well with my recent experiences with w/, sounds like we might be experiencing similar behaviors with the new firmware @lsky :

I’ve updated and cleared the tape and everything, but I’m still getting clicks at the end of my recorded cues- w/ will only record material at the end of the cue and it’s always a little distorted and short. Here is an example:

Would love to know if this could be fixed! This module is too good to give up on haha.

#491

Sounds similar to what I’m experiencing…

The samples that came pre-loaded with the module (some synth lines) also had these clicks and gaps.

@Benjamin_Mauch so did you have these problems from the beginning or did they ocurr after using the module for some time?

Nice to see two w/s in one rack, I guess that opens up lots of possibilites. I was also thinking about getting a second one, after getting a bit more familiar with one of them.