#43

Yes! Iā€™m particularly keen on point 6 but I could immediately benefit from 2 and your second point in 7 - I imagine that control of the tape speed would be a TT command for THAT

#44

#2,3 & 4 would be great. The ability to add more precise cues would help keep things in sync.

#45

1, 2, 3 and 4 sound really great!

Outside of THIS and THAT being user-assignable, 7 just sounds like loading a TT scene. :slight_smile:

#46

As THIS and THAT have different effect (speed, overdub, etc) depending on W/'s current mode, it would be simpler and less redundant for Teletype to directly target the properties you want to change. This would open up new possibilities that wouldnā€™t be achievable using only THIS and THAT.

Certain properties, such as speed, could greatly benefit from a dedicated operator, as we could give them a unique, tailored way of reacting to the numbers we pass them. We could for example have speed be interpreted in the 1v/oct standard used by Teletypeā€™s voltage outputs (1V = 1638), which would enable us to use the same operators we use with Teletype outputs for setting speed (conversely pitch):

  • V for octaves (1 volt = 1 octave = 2x speed)
  • N for transposition in notes (1 semitone = 1,0594x speed)
  • JI for frequency/speed ratios (3 over 2 means 1,5x speed or a perfect fifth, the ratio could be anything else)

This would open up possibilities for pitched sample playback, half/double speed/octave manipulation, just intonation and polyrhythms.

I know Iā€™ve already said this earlier in the thread, but I canā€™t get over how useful and fun this would be.

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#47

Given that the firmware now seems much much more stable, is it worth bumping this thread?

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#48

Given the recent slow down in beta releases, i was under the impression that a final 1.1 firmware would be released soon with more w/ type ops. these are all assumptions tho

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#49

hi all

i just got a ii cable for my w/ and a walk, which means iā€™m finally ready to write a scene to create the most esoteric loop pedal of all time! since setting up a mic in my apartment a few months ago iā€™ve been experimenting with trumpet, guitar, whistling, clapping, snapping, etc into my w/ and iā€™m so excited to do it in a hands-free way.

has anyone else tried this? it looks like iā€™d have to set the cue points manually before playing, but could use a single script to go back to the first cue point in a loop, turn record on/off (with an EVERY), and stop/start playing. iā€™m so excited for more w/type features, especially around THIS and THAT.

update: this is really fun! iā€™m going to try to get something recorded this weekend and iā€™ll post the results.

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#50

A very simple idea derived from the newly added features: how about a few utility operators for choosing the functions of THIS and THAT? Something like WS.THIS.DUB, WS.THAT.TRANSPORT, etc. It seems to me that using these from Teletypeā€™s live mode would be a very convenient way to switch modes. I am sure this could be used creatively within scripts too.

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#51

Did anyone take a crack at it?

I would like to help with the visualization part. Let me know if anyone is interested in making this happenā€¦

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#52

w/ as an external mlr track, controlled via crow :heart_eyes::heart_eyes::heart_eyes:

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#53

After spending some time with TT + W// today, I really support this suggestion. Being able to engage record or reverse etcā€¦ on one/the other/both W/ would be wonderful for stereo stuff!

Edit: Iā€™ve been spending a lot of time with Cocoquantus :sweat_smile:

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#54

Might be better implemented as WS.THIS.MODE, WS.THAT.MODE with a numerical arg to switch between TRANSPORT/SIGNAL/DUB/CAPTION/SAMPLE.

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#55

Agree for numerical arg as it would aid brevity

Edit - thinking a little further, considering RMODE syntax for Just Type, maybe there could be something like WS.TMODE 0 1 setting the numerical args for both THIS and THAT simultaneously. This could be more in line with TT syntax and also more similar to standard W/ use.

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#56

Hey w/ typers! I wanted to know to what extent itā€™s possible to control the overdub/overwrite settings of w/ using teletype? The docs Iā€™ve found say WS.REC accepts

  • state : three basic states are allowed.
    • 1 is OVERDUB
    • 0 is off, or READONLY
    • -1 is OVERWRITE

As I understand it, this maps to the different input levels you can apply to that in play mode with 1 mapping to +5 volts, 0 mapping to 0 volts and -1 mapping to -5 Volts.

If so, is it possible to set a value like 0.5 - and have a partial overdub/overwrite?

edit: I donā€™t have a teletype so canā€™t test this myself

#57

As far as I understand, the WS.REC doesnā€™t allow for that, so to achieve what youā€™re looking for youā€™d need to control W/ via CV (which could be set from one of the Teletype CV outs).

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#58

ah, thatā€™s unfortunate. I was hoping to be able to use the overdub settings in live mode along with the sample style CUE-style resets and cue motion, w/ v8 speed

#59

if you donā€™t need to change the setting live, overdub CV levels will latch when you enter the mode selector! not the most convenient, of course

#60

oh amazing! That is a bit of hassle to set up, but it will let me do my experiment :slight_smile:

Itā€™s also good to know that there doesnā€™t appear to be a technical limitation on doing that sort of overdubbing - I might be able to add it in when the w/ code getā€™s open sourced.

#61

Still using the W/ in most patches. I know tape speed ops are possibly forthcoming in the W/ type firmware (mentioned above in thread) but the ability to fade in sound over sound AND continuous tape speed control would be amazing.

Iā€™ve been using WS.CUE 0 to reset and WS.REC -1, 1 for overwrite/overdub but it will occasionally cause clicking.

Iā€™ll use an envelope follower to overdub to W/ using THAT but canā€™t adjust tape speed at the same time.

Even the ability to have either CV overwrite/overdub AND CV v/oct simultaneously on THIS and THAT would be neat and would be closer to recreating touching the wheel on a tape-echo machine.

#62

Any further w/type ops in the pipeline? Curious as corvid companions are now making their way into the worldā€¦

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