Does Rosetta 2 also translate audio interface drivers?

I didn’t realize the memory would be that fast. That’s pretty amazing.

Thanks very much for sharing your experiences @randy

Exciting times…also confusing times, but mainly exciting!

It’s been pointed out that the new M1 Macs present identically to the products they replace, and the branding remains the same to emphasize that an M1 Mac is still a Mac, not something new and dubious.

Apple doesn’t offer a roadmap, but here’s a roundup of current scuttlebut on what might happen over the next year or so.

I do see an increasingly painful problem for Apple if the 16" MacBook Pro is getting trounced by the 13" model for months and months.

I ordered the air. I’m excited to see just how unified the memory is. I’m wondering how exotic that might get… If the neural cores can touch the gpus buffers mid frame… Holy cats that would be wild.

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I’m pondering a Mini and/or a Macbook Air purchase. I currently have a 9 year old 27" imac that I mostly use for music making and an 8 year old Macbook Air that I use for daily interwebbing.

I’m wondering if I could get away with just a Macbook Air for both duties. Of course I’d have to buy some sort of dock for extra inputs but it’d still be cheaper than buying both machines.

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These benchmarks make it seem like you could get away with just an air.

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The thing that I’d like to hear in your situation is how much (if any) performance hit the air takes from thermal management when pushed.

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That’s a million dollar question. My dogs shed lots of little short hairs that get into everything, its bad enough to push me towards the air.

I really hope the thermals are not too bad. Judging (with zero math) by the battery life and capacity it looks like they should run reasonably cool. It’s hard to make a lower power heating element… I think.

million dollar question

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It depends on the driver. Kernel extensions will definitely not be translatable. But drivers for most recent interfaces should not be requiring one. If the driver was written using DriverKit, then it is supposed to be translatable with Rosetta. Note that I don’t have any experience trying different drivers so I’m just reporting on what’s supposed to happen.

rule of thumb: if you had to reboot your computer after installing the driver, it’s probably not going to run via Rosetta.

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I assume anything that uses core audio will be fine?

Core Audio is a blanket term for a bunch of MacOS audio frameworks at different levels. So, not really.

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Have you tested Max/msp over Rosetta 2 at all, @randy? Just curious how that runs…

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About Big Sur (on Intel) compatibility with music software. Reaper and Reaktor newest versions both work on my machine, but unfortunately SuperCollider does not. The weird thing is that older version I had installed (3.9) worked, but I had some problems with starting SuperDirt so wanted to check out if maybe upgrade could help.

I have a simple way of thinking about these new chips through thermal envelopes / wattage / intel perf targets: i3 in the Air, i5 in the 13" Pro, i7/i9 in the 16" Pro. The 16" MBP has a more generous thermal budget, so I kind of understand why they wouldn’t just put the same M1 chip in it.

This twitter thread on the M1 chip MacBook Pro is good:

And Gruber’s review is very positive: https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_m1_macs

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I’m also hearing a whole lot of good things about the Air. Like way less heat issues and less throttling than the last version even though it has no fans. I’m thinking about picking up an air, but I’m a bit worried about how well things like Live will run through Rosetta without optimization for M1 (and Ableton tends to be slow about that sort of thing). So I think I’ll wait around and see until some of the M1 Macbooks are in circulation.

I have not found any exhaustive tests of the MBA M1 + Ableton yet, but a few posts like this one are very encouraging:

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