ok, cool. so is a motherboard the best place to begin?

I would first decide whether to go with an Intel or AMD CPU. Right now AMD Ryzen seems to be the best. Then, choose a motherboard compatible with that CPU, and that will dictate type of RAM. The other parts are usually just your preference. For Adobe apps I suggest 32 GB RAM and a very recent GPU. pcpartpicker.com is a good site to help choose compatible parts.

I strongly disagree with that statement, IMHO if you want a stable pc with ongoing driver support for years (the equivalent of the Mac experience), one should consider either going with a vendor who specializes in audio pcs (scan computer in the uk, don’t know about US), or do a significant amount of research, especially when it comes to RAM and mainboards. Might be frowned upon here but there is a really helpful and friendly thread at GS “today I build my new pc”, where there is a wealth of information and help about current affairs.
There are quite a few people out there complaining about unstable / crashy pcs with suboptimal performance and bad low latency (clicky), who haven’t done their homework. You can get lucky, but that’s not guaranteed.

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I’ve built two desktop computers myself, had absolutely 0 problem. Most of the “clicky” latency issues have 90% to do with system configuration more than they have anything to do with hardware.

Typically, GPUs can cause this, CPU auto throttling can cause this, Ethernet Cards can do this, etc. there’s a whole lot of things that can do this, but you’ll rarely have clicky / latency problems because you took a RAM that’s less speedy, or one SSD instead of another, or because your motherboard doesn’t have the correct i/o section, etc.

I find this to be the most comprehensive source of information about how to avoid audio dropouts on Windows :

https://www.cantabilesoftware.com/glitchfree/

Edit: One hardware thing that might matter a lot : in realtime audio it’s my understanding that better speed per core in a CPU is usually more critical than having a lot of less powerful cores, which is quite specific to the audio realm. There was a time where getting the best i5 possible was a better option than getting a slightly slower per core i7. You can find quite a lot of informations about that online too, possibly also in the link above, can’t remember if that part is adressed.

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I’ll throw out that I bought all new Noctua fans and CPU cooler about a year ago and I must say it’s awesome. I barely even notice that it’s going and my old i7-3770k is running around ~41 C under a moderate load. The only time I hear the fan going is when it boots up and they turn on full tilt til then the BIOS takes over.

I will throw out that yeah, you’ve got to do some configuring with Windows but what can you do when the OS is designed to work on whatever you feel like installing it on in reason. I’ve never had audio problems in the desktop realm once I go through all of the Windows settings. I did have to recently back pedal to 1709 since my old Saffire 40 just wouldn’t work correctly under 1909 but works fine on this older version.

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Configuring Windows is fine; I’m happy to take the time to get a system set up for my needs.

@Markus thanks! Scan looks good to me.

I really wish Windows could do aggregate audio devices. Have a zoom l-12 mixer that I’d love to use for just audio inputs rather than a full audio device.

Elektron machines are great for this using over-bridge. I guess the hardware has been designed specifically for this usecase though.

Is it possible? I’ve heard reports of programs designed specifically for this purpose. Has anyone had any luck with them?

ASIO4ALL can do this, I’ve never used it for that purpose though.

Any good tips or sources of information on how to best configure windows for audio?

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aggregate audio devices usually are a bad workflow for music making. Asio4all can do this, yes, but it might (and most likely will) go out of sync, which will then lead to clicks, dropouts.

Maybe you missed it by @LLK posted this link above: Glitch Free - Cantabile - Software for Performing Musicians
Which should be exactly what you are looking for.

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I’ve been using FlexASIO over the interface included with my device since it lets me switch between ableton, vcvrack, youtube, spotify etc. Free and best audio driver I’ve used for windows.

As someone already said, this is possible with asio4all. From my experience, it’s no good if you need really low latency (asio4all created a lot of issues for me at low buffer settings while my rme drivers worked without any issues at all), but if you can do direct monitoring and it’s just about recording, it’s definitely a viable way to go. Plus it’s free, so it doesn’t hurt to try it out, maybe it works in your system without issues.

Yeah. I’ll have a go - can’t hurt. Thanks all.

My workflow isn’t too bad right now - the Zoom L-12 has on-board recording. I tend to just record directly onto the device and then export the WAV files into Ableton for mixing/mastering. It would be slightly more convenient to track directly in Ableton, but it’s not a deal breaker. It sounds like the sync issues could be more hassle than they’re worth.

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Ableton has a great explanation of this, and how they handle multi-core setups. Multi-core CPU handling FAQ – Ableton

I use Voicemeeter to handle multiple audio sources in Windows:
https://vb-audio.com/Voicemeeter/potato.htm
It’s very good – easy to use and I haven’t noticed any latency issues.

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You’ve got to love how clear and detailed Live documentation can be, great ressource as well !

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Speaking of scan.co.uk as it was mentioned earlier. Has anyone got any experience with this company? Reviews seem to be either that they’re terrible or amazing…

Guessing you’ve already done something, but after 30 years of Mac only music making I bought an HP Z mini (Mac mini sized) new on eBay. 8 core i9 with 1 tb internal and space for another internal drive, 32gb ram. For about $1100… a huge savings over anything similar on the Mac platform. I would recommend these “workstation” grade PCs… everything is well tuned and set up and there’s no extra software installed. I was shocked to find that it is about 7x as fast as my 2016 mbp 15. I find windows 10 to be shockingly easy to deal with. I expected a sacrifice and it is not a sacrifice at all… I dare say that it might be better than OSX for audio work.

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Either ditch it, or if it that seems too high risk (the built in one is fine though) see if you can exclude your plugins and samples from being checked by it every time you load a project.