There are a few like that, but the glaring omission across the board is that none have stereo in and stereo out

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Thanks for the link. This could make the pencil a lot more useful generally for me. I think you need that little bit of friction, a little bit of haptic feedback to be accurate. It’s my general issue with using a touch interface.

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Not a cheap thing to add to the arsenal, but this seems pretty noteworthy:

https://www.fabfilter.com/news/1561543200/fabfilter-pro-plug-ins-now-available-in-auv3-format-on-ios

A quick search on my phone indicates these are iPad-only, but still nothing to sneeze at

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wow, 130$ for this bundle is really good.

Do you/anyone happen to know if there is a way to wire up an iPad + mac so that the DAC happens to an interface connected to the mac (and that the output from the iPad is recorded in a DAW on the mac?)

you can definitely send audio to macos via lightning (and i assume usbc). but i can’t easily imagine a workflow to round trip it in real time though.

interesting I’ll have to look into this. I would ideally want a mac that doesn’t have tb3/usc-c to connect to a usb-c ipad pro…though I could, in theory, connect it to my newer work computer usb-c <-> usb-c if I install my music prod stuff on there.

Latency for the case I’m thinking isn’t too big a deal (sending out to the iPad pro for mastering), but I’m not sure of a way to make the workflow work where it would be worth it.

The iConnectAudio devices do digital audio round-trip. I don’t know what latency is like, but inter-device audio is something they talk about a lot.

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See this page on the Ableton website (though this isn’t unique to Ableton):

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it could be the day in digital audio when…

'yeah, I mixed a stereo .wav file
on my computer,
and then mastered it on my iPad

or vice versa

…sounds reasonable :slightly_smiling_face: idk

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Thanks for the ideas. I looked things up a little bit.

The built-in Mac solution seems to be one way only. I haven’t seen mention of usb-c (just lightning).

There seems to be a few apps that support sending audio between—StudioMux (EDIT: accidentally said AudioBus before), Audreio and MusicIO. AudioBus seems to have mixed reviews, and the other two don’t have too much info around them.

The Midi 2+ from iConnectivity supports their “audio passThru” feature for sending audio between Mac and iOS in the digital domain. That one is particularly intriguing because it also can interface with two midi hosts, so I could use it for Norns integration in a less roundabout way then I have to set up now (RME Babyface Pro, which I have intentions of selling at some point as I got a UAD interface with more I/O that I like more, connected to an m-audio usb midi interface.

What core problem would you be trying to solve with this set up? Saving money on the plugins? Saving processing power on the mac? (both? others?)

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Saving money on the plugins?

This definitely. Getting the full bundle of fabfilter plugins for mac is quite expensive (and it and izotope are more than I want to spend on the mastering side of things right now based on how much I do it and everything).

That being said, the thing I most would use is Pro-Q 3, and the mac plugin for that is not really all that much more than the bundle.

Saving processing power on the mac?

Not really. Right now, I’m thinking about this as more of the mastering process, and I haven’t had any sort of issues with that level of stuff going on in my computer (sometimes if I have a lot of ableton devices when mixing, I’ll get clicks and pops…but I feel like multi-channel audio between the two sounds complicated and none of the solutions I’ve seen have been talked about as “rock-solid” and all seem a little fiddly to begin with.


Other things, I’m interested in are incorporating the iPad more in music making (and this seems like it could be an interesting step). My boyfriend and I got this fancy 12.9" iPad pro (which he gets a lot of use out of because he is an avid comic reader), but I haven’t really found a cool way to incorporate yet.

It also would be kinda cool to control things with the iPad’s giant touch screen as opposed to the trackpad I use.

That being said, based on the research I did it seems like this is potentially a cool workflow in a couple years that might not have any incredibly easy and robust ways at the current moment.

Gotcha. Based on https://www.cultofmac.com/615742/how-to-record-digital-audio-from-your-iphone-to-your-mac-with-idam/, it looks like the audio only goes one-way, but since you’re looking at mastering anyways, you could probably set the master out from Ableton to go to the iPad, and then use GarageBand to record in stereo and use the FabFilter stuff to process that

Surprised I haven’t seen Audulus pop up here yet. I just recently got into VCV Rack and was looking for something similar on iOS, and remembered I’d downloaded Audulus about a year ago but had given up on it. Getting back into it now with a years worth of practice on other apps and semi-modulars, finding it to be a bit easier to learn now.

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Goodness, the FabFilter plugins, with ALM, using ES8 as a DSP send-return is a very elegant and playable solution for both end of chain and insert eq/effects. The FabFilter UI feels made for a touch screen, so much so it “feels” like hardware.
Sequencing coming in from Norns=>FH-2 and effects looping through ES8, have made my current rack the most inspiring of my long involvement with modular.

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Like most of us (I assume) I had absolutely zero need for an additional delay. They’re the one effect I have more of than any other - some I don’t even have one decent one of (EQ, for instance, but I will get that DDMF Neve one at some stage) - but delay has always been one of the my 2 favourite effects (the other being spring reverb, but the iVCS3 has such a perfect spring unit in it that I’ve never felt like I needed another one once I got that!)

I digress…

I didn’t imagine that I had any need for another delay, and then… this:

I have just bought a new delay… and it’s GLORIOUS

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I really like Audulus and this year it has become a growing part of my music practice, especially as I’m working towards playing live. I also used it quite a lot when I was in hospital with just my iPad.

It’s filled the space my little nord modular used to fill

(See my YouTube channel etc etc)

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How long did it take to get comfortable with Audulus? Math isn’t my forte but I’m slowly figuring out a workflow. My biggest issue is trying to decipher what the different modules take for inputs and what they send out. And when I watch tutorials, they throw out concepts I never would have considered on my own. Fertile ground for learning though!:nerd_face:

I love iVCS3’s spring reverb; just discovered the epic FDN option, it’s so huge but apparently doesn’t attenuate like the standard spring reverb.
Hearing a lot of good things about Modley though, might have to check it out.

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I can’t get enough of Autony and Cality. They’ve become my favorite sources of notes when I’m chilling with my iPad in bed. Sometimes Thesys lends a hand with CCs.

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