#403

I use iCloud for this. A lot of music apps will store saves and files in an iCloud folder by default.

If it doesn’t, any other cloud storage app will likely work.

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#404

I hardly ever use any IOS music apps… I prefer hardware. But, today I got off my a__ and connected Animoog to the modular via an old Kenton Pro Solo that I had lying around. It makes a damn nice controller! I have gate, cv, and pressure out. I might have to rack Yarns back up. I had been thinking about a Mini Horse or the new Pittsburgh Modular controller… for my purposes, the Animoog might be all that I need.

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#405

I love Animoog… I really hope Moog updates it to support AudioUnit soon.

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#406

I’ve made a new iOS (Koala) video, but it’s as much about the general principles of chopping drum loops as it is using Koala. The concepts are universal, no matter what you use to make music.

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#407

This may be answered elsewhere but is there any way to interface Grid or Arc with iOS?

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#408

I decided to challenge myself - and Koala - by taking a single note from Klevgrand’s Jussi app and using that to create all the melodic elements in my latest track/video. (The drums are from the previous session so you can see what I did with those if you like).

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#409

I’ve been following this thread for a while and using a mix of semi modular gear (0-Coast, SoftPop, Volca Modular, Kastle), processed through the iPad via AUM.
The iPad gives me so much to work with in a small, portable device. Model 15, Ripplemaker, Rozeta Suite, Audulus, iVCS3, Spacecraft, FieldScaper, Koala - I feel like I’m already working with a setup that would rival a decent Eurorack setup (and at a much cheaper cost, even including the cost of the IPad).

But I’m looking at finally starting a Eurorack, and wondering;
What would a physical Eurorack give me that I’m not already getting with iOS?
I’ve been interested in Morphagene for catching and manipulating happy accidents - something I’m already doing with FieldScaper.

Also interested in granular sampling, but that too can be done with Spacecraft.
And in AUM I can route midi from Rozeta’s LFO’s to “voltage control” many of the parameters of the other apps. Midi out of the iPad can drive the 0-coast to a degree, though I haven’t figured out how to get LFO’s out of iOS to the real world yet.

Trying to decide what would be good to start with, to complement what I’m working with in iOS.
Maybe iOS has too many options, and a physical rack with limited patch cables and knobs would focus creativity more?

I realize this is almost the reverse of the topic of this thread! Looking forward to advice from Eurorack users who also work with iOS apps.

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#410

i don’t have any modular gear but @burns_audio’s great mutable instruments ports actually made modular click for me in a way that it never has before… i have mostly managed to burry that feeling. but i will be super interested in what you end up doing! so definitely check back in

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#411

Not directly. You can send MIDI to iOS of course. And there are several ways to generate MIDI with a grid or arc.

#412

Oh yeah forgot to mention Spectrum - that’s been a great intro to the MI modules, along with VCV Rack. I’m almost reluctant to look into the physical modules though because I have them on iOS and VCV, I guess it goes back to my original question of hardware vs software.

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#413

I ended up downsizing my eurorack by half after getting acquanted with AUM and making Spectrum. Patching Rozeta into Spectrum and adding some reverb and delay, that gives me a feeling very close to the “happy accidents” I got while patching in euro land.

Both euro and ios I find way more inspiring (and fun!!) than opening a blank ableton session.

What I kept were some modules I haven’t found software equivalents for and enjoy the sound of: Intellijel Shapeshifter, Makenoise Erbe Verb, Noise Engineering BIA, some Feedback Modules distortions, a few analog filters, and my favorite control module intellijel planar2. And some utilities to get the most out of those modules.

iOS pros:
Cheap and diverse app selection (just buy everything by @brambos)
Scene recall (well AUv3, anyways)
I really enjoy scripting in Mozaic

iOS cons:
sometimes can be buggy
I like it for jamming but need a laptop for mixing stage, don’t like getting complicated with it
Easy to build a jam in AUM, hard to build a song (though I’m trying to fix that with Orchestra)
So many apps do 80% of what I wish they did and the other 20% they can’t do

euro pros:
sound quality
audio rate modulation, feedback patching, analog filters and distortion
no screen involved

euro cons:
cost
the endless time spent shopping / planning
slower to physically patch
easy to spend hours with nothing to show for it but an ominous woosh

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#414

Thanks for sharing your amazing work with Spectrum, I’m having loads of fun with the entire suite! Had Mozaic running a few instances in AUM today, with Rozeta sending LFOs. Was not aware of Orchestra, that looks very useful - I’m currently using an op-z for hardware sequencing and patterns, sounds like Orchestra has a similar workflow.
Interesting that you mention the iOs screen as a con - I find that maybe the hyper-flexibility of it maybe gives too many opportunities to look for more apps or menu dive for presets.
Some Eurorack users have said that the time spent planning and acquiring physical modules forces you to actually learn them; on iOS I find that I download more than I need and end up really using only a fraction of the apps.
I’ve personally avoided Ableton and other DAWs so far, I think the tactile nature of the iPad screen makes it more fun and closer to Eurorack/ semi-modular gear.

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#415

Analog sound processing is really the major thing you’re missing with ios, its full to the brim with all digital kinds of processing and arranging software, also found in a pc or digital eurorack modules.

Yes, jackplugs and knobs offer something different. But so does the ipad screen. That’s a matter of preference.

But if you want analog waveshapers, fm of a analog oscilator, analog filters or distortion flanging bbd delays and you name 'm, the digital sound just is not the same. Also matter of preference.

I load my iPad up with all my analog drum and synth samples. So I start with analog sounds that have been processed through amps, tape, filters and so on. Then I use the digital tools to do the performance, make the arrangement. Then it goes through the professional effects, like fabfilter and eventide in Aum. Then back out of the iPad for more amps, filters, spring reverb and analog tape.

I recommend Triqtraq if you want a menu-diving-free, yet powerful performance tool on ios.

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#416

Thanks, this is a really helpful perspective. Actually the reason I’m holding onto the 0-Coast and Softpop; thy make sounds I just haven’t been able to find in iOS.
Before I got the 0-Coast I’d been using Ripplemaker for months, and was hesitant to get a physical synth that seemed to have similar functionality. But as soon as I heard the 0-Coast I was hooked (and I still use both, even in tandem).
I think maybe the strategy for me will be going for modules that can manipulate the cv and audio coming out of iOS. Probably also an interface module like ES-8 or Shuttle Control.

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#417

I feel … so seen …

(insert ominous woosh here)

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#418

I just realized I have a random iPod touch just sitting around that I don’t use. What could be some cool ways to implement it into an ambient setup?

#419

Depending on how old your iPod touch is, get FieldScraper. Great field recorder thingy with granular stuff.

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#420

This reminds me that I have a couple of really vintage iOS devices, the first iPad and iPod Touch, which are not updatable. The iPad is stuck in iOS 5 and I have no idea about the iPod Touch.

Does anyone know if there’s a list of music apps that still run on these old devices?

Thanks.

#421

The big Eurorack advantage is surely instant access to multiple devices with a shared, straightforward patching system. iOS can offer UI experiences that physical modular can’t really match, but having a Maths and a Morphagene sitting next to each other, with a little pile of patch cables, is a fantastic experience in itself. Of course that’s a second iPad you could be buying there instead. Nothing’s easy. Personally I prefer discrete physical modules over apps - I feel I just end up doing more that way - though there’s obviously a hell of a lot to be said for being able to carry an iPad anywhere, without worrying about power leads and patch cables.

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#422

TouchOSC has had really good backward compatibility, if you’re into turning them into controllers