#704

Fascinating! I will have to try to figure that out… :+1:

#705

Thanks. Was definitely way too early for me to be posting such rudimentary questions. (The shame) A few days of playing around and it’s all making sense.

I’m now eyeball deep in apps and loving it. Definitely a different experience but really inspiring. Thanks again.

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#706

I’m back after some time using the iPad. What. Wonderful device for music making. To echo some sentiments from earlier in the thread. Patterning 2 is a fantastic drum machine. Really has me breaking out of some of my old habits. My only gripes are no undo, and the limitations on number of sounds. Frankly, I feel like a Patterning three that incorporates audio units, has piano roll, and allows for unlimited sounds would be the ultimate iOS DAW.

But such a thing does not exist so I’m still stuck on what to use as my DAW. So far I’ve just been running audio to my laptop and composing that way, but I’d really like to be completing composition on the iPad from time to time. I’m being a bit conservative in diving into one DAW, dunno why I’m cheap on buying apps but I just don’t want to spend money on things I won’t use.

The GarageBand UI is a disaster to me. No chance I’ll be sticking with that one.

I thinks down to Auria Pro and Cubasis. Any red flags or finger snaps people want to offer for these would be appreciated. Thank you for taking the time.

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#707

AUM works as a DAW too. I find it more immediate than Cubasis for recording jams. For composing or mastering, I use Cubasis. Never tried Auria.

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#708

Yes. Definitely content with AUM for capturing impromptu stuff. Works well for that.

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#709

probably already know…
if every track is routed to mixbusA
and a new track is set to input mixbusA
then this track can record a stereo mix
and the whole AUM program is a mixer

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#710

IIt’s great!

If I’m not mistaken you can do multitrack by setting some tracks to mixbusB, etc…

Please let me not be mistaken!!!

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#711

it’s kinda flexible
the above example
makes the mixbusA track kinda like a stereo master…
some to A and some to B will create two files, if that’s what you’re after…

even un-routed it’ll create a new file for every track that is recording
if i’m not mistaken

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#712

I’ve read folks saying that they are using AUM to generate tracks that they export to Ableton, which makes lots of sense to me.

I have not been able to sort out a DAW in iOS, despite having Auria and Cubasis…

But I’m bonding with AUM very nicely…

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#713

there’s better engineers on here than me…
maybe they can say more… :slight_smile:
from what I can tell,
AUM is a DAW
(to some degree, or… for the way I use it, I’ve been kinda into not editing -just collecting a stereo file -every mix is a performance, and calling that master)
it’s just so flexible, that one has to do all the routings oneself
in a hardware mixer, or protools, or ableton -all channels are automatically routed to the stereo master
in AUM
one has to route every channel to a mixbus (mixbusA in the above example)
and then create a new channel with an input from the same bus (mixbusA as above)
this way, mixbusA kinda becomes a stereo master channel
and if record enabled, it will create a mixed down stereo file
from all the channels routed to it
(one can even apply effects to only this channel)

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#714

Well… looks like the prices on Cubasis and Auria went up to regular again so AUM it is!

Another question - is anyone here using their iPad to manage their SysEx library?

#715

Cubasis has a 50% off sale two or three times a year. But even if you already have Cubasis, you still need AUM.

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#716

I feel this 100%. If you have other DAW optipns but not AUM, you definitely need AUM; if you have AUM but not other DAW options… I think you’ll be fine :slightly_smiling_face:

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#717

I always tell people to try SeekBeats. Every once in a while, they listen and freak the fuck out.
It’s just that good. Best drum synth/sequencer in iOS IMO.

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#718

Okay. So here’s my current distraction.

First, the gear: iPad Air 3, MBP, clarett thunderbird 3 interface (ie not compatible with the iPad). Multiple hardware synths. Two DAWs on the mbp. Aum etc. on the iPad.

I’ve got things running nicely with apples aggregate device/multi-input device settings. I can run all the iPad tracks into a stereo track on my daws.

Things I still can’t do but want to:

  • Send audio from the iPad to separate tracks in my DAWs. AUM only allows ‘usb out’ in my current configuration and therefore only a stereo track regardless of how many apps I have running on the iPad.

  • Run audio tracks from my DAW into AUM (or equivalent) tracks so I can use the iPad for processing- these would have to be able to go back into the MBP too. As an example, I want to use the vocoder on my iPad for vocals tracked in the DAW.

  • I’d like to sync the clocks, with options to have either the iPad or MBP as the ‘parent’ depending on the situation

It seems like maybe Studiomux is the best solution. But I’m also open to other options or thoughts on studiomux if people have some wisdom to share.

#719

You could also use a class compliant audio interface with the ipad for however much I/O you want.

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#720

This is true. But it seems like madness to me to have to resort to that. Aside from the crudeness and significantly higher cost, having to run through all those converters and wires in order to get two digital devices, from the same manufacturer nonetheless, to work together is just too ridiculous for me to handle.

I’ll give studiomux a go over the holidays and report back.

#721

I’m on windows, and the studiomux receiver app never worked for me. So basically I’ve paid for nothing) No one ever got back to me over the email either.

So you might be lucky on a mac, or not.

#722

i have to share my end of year travel flight kit. both because it was a huge journey to get to this final list and also because it’s so complicated i’m probably going to need to refer back to this post later.

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after a morning of testing this is where it’s at:
-ipad is the brain. aum, patterning, et all.
-zoom h4n for field recording.
-op-z for noodling with field recording samples? bought it for this trip, don’t super know how it works yet.
-dji osmo pocket for video

where it gets crazy is the connections. the op-z does bidirectional audio over usb. but i couldn’t get my hands on a trrs mic/phones splitter in time. so to get the field recordings to the opz, i’ve got to get them to the ipad. no problem, the h4n should just plug in via the camera connector kit (henceforth CCK) to transfer files from its SD card, right? no, even though it’s battery powered, it errors out of ios for using too much power. no problem, i’ve got the CCK with extra lightning cable for charging specifically for accessories that throw this error. except even plugged into the wall, it still doesn’t work. but i did some googling and discovered that there’s a work around for accessories like this if you plug them into an unpowered hub, and then plug the hub into the camera connector kit.

works perfectly. so well, in fact, that it actually makes the h4n function as a microphone for ios(!!), a function that from everything i’ve read online should not actually be possible… on top of that, with the hub, you can actually plug the op-z and the h4n into ios at the same time. unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be any way to select inputs from usb audio and record from both. but more study is needed.

there’s more. the osmo pocket shoots h264 4k/60 fps stabilized video. it’s got a usbc port and shoots to micro sd. but without one of the new ipad pros with usb-c, there is no support for actually transferring the full quality files in ios, which requires h265 for any 4k video over 30fps. osmo to CCK to files app should work, but does not. but the h4n has an SD card… so if i plug the micro sd card from the osmo into an SD adaptor, plug that into the h4n, plug the h4n into the usb hub, the usb hub into the CCK, and the CCK into the ipad, i can transfer the 4k/60 video to the ipad files app and back it up to icloud.

the possibilities are endless! (please no one ask me whether i actually used any of this in two weeks)

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#723

What’s that cable running from the CCK’s lightning cable for? Diverting attention? :wink:

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