I don’t know if this is the best place for this but I just saw this WWDC update tweet.

I feel like this could potentially be a really interesting way to integrate music production with iOS apps and macOS-only DAW stuff. I’m excited to see where this goes!

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Has anyone dived in and tried this granular synth yet?

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Yep, I got FRMS on launch day! I’m a big fan of Imaginando. They have wonderful sound design videos for this app and DRC on their YouTube channel.

The first release was pretty sluggish, but they’ve really improved performance since then – to the point where I can’t make it choke even if I try. I’m on a new iPad Pro, but a friend of mine has an older model and can chord with live input over a few channels no sweat.

I’ve spent a bunch of time in the app and feel like I know it pretty well. General feeling is that it’s fun and powerful, and definitely worth the $. But here are some things you might want to know before deciding:

  • Depending on the sample, it can be pretty hard to get a nice melodic sound out of the granular engine alone. I can’t quite put my finger on why this is, but tuning is more finicky than other granular synths I’ve tried. The FM layering option is key in this regard, because once you get something close enough you can guide it the rest of the way through layering.
  • There isn’t any time-stretching, and each note starts with a single grain. In practice, this means that even with two configurable envelopes, low notes can have a much slower attack than high notes. Some of the nice rhythmic effects you can get from the modulation matrix are similarly affected by pitch.

Oh and a weird bonus is that they include an Omnichord-style chording / ribbon keyboard, which I’ve never used but someone may!


If you want to try it out first, there’s a desktop version with a free trial. And of course there’s a huge discussion over at the audiobus forums if you’re looking for more opinions.

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I will not buy another delay.

I will not buy another delay.

I will not buy another delay.

I will not buy another delay.

I… ooh TTAP looks really nice

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The K-Devices stuff is great… both on iOS, and their Max for Live stuff. I can see how that might break your delay buying prevention mantra :wink:

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I have all their apps so far, but they really make you work to understand their UI. Hmmm, does this crescent moon with a tail shape represent a filter or some kind of other mystical feedback thing?

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anyone here used sEGments?


a bit reminiscent of ableton’s simpler…

been thinking of running multiple instances in AUM, with OP-Z sequencing…

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Haha! I did the exact same thing! Since then I’ve bought WOV and I think something else of theirs.

My most significant recent purchase (in terms of what it can do for my setup rather than financial outlay) was Digikeys. I’ve been having too many crashes in BM3 to persevere with it so I’m trying to create a similar workflow within AUM. I envisage that Digikeys will form the sequencing backbone.

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I’ve not tried it yet but I’m intrigued. It could be what I’m looking for regarding samples in relation to my AUM BM3-alike.

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There is a button that converts the mysterious symbols into understandable words. I have it switched on at all times.

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With the latest updates to iOS making an already unstable BM3 into something even less reliable, I’m looking at replicating that kind of workflow within AUM. I was wondering if anyone else has done this and, if so, what apps they opted for.

I’m looking at using Digikeys as the sequencing brain of it all and that will obviously control whatever synths I want to use. I have a wealth of granular options too, again, all of which (I’m theorising) can be controlled with Digikeys.

Ruismaker Noir has me covered for drum machines but I’ve yet to settle on a sample-based option. Digistix looks like it might be an obvious drun choice but I’m sure I have something which already can do this job (Beathawk, maybe). What I really don’t have is a sample manipulation engine for playing around with chops and slices, should I want to do that. Has anyone tried Segments for this kind of work? I feel like I’m missing something obvious that I probably already have.

Update!

I’ve spent a few hours with Xequence 2 and I’m blown away by how effective it is when coupled with AUM. At present I’m sending MIDI data to EG Pulse as my 16 pads sampler (drums) with mids to the new Apesoft Rhodes app and bass via Model D. I’ve got a separate channel sending MIDI triggers to Bleass Sidekick to sidechain the melodic elements via a mix bus. This way of working is beautiful!

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what sort of issues are you experiencing? i’m running 13.4.1 on a 9.7" ipad pro and although i’m using BM3 pretty minimally (all samples, no audio units, built in fx only + exporting to DAW for finishing) it seems relatively stable for me… i wish intua was more active with updates… seems there is a growing concern that it might be end of the road for BM3??

as an alternative to BM3 i’ve considered moving sequencing to OP-Z or squarp pyramid and using the ipad as my rack sampler/mixer device. for that i’m thinking something like AUM paired with sEGments.

Crashes and freezing, mainly. I can make it relatively stable if I don’t use external AUv3s but that kind of negates the whole point for me. If I change parameters on effects or MIDI data during playback it will still crash at times though. I’m running a 10.5" iPad Pro.

The combination of Xequence 2 and AUM is proving itself incredibly powerful, though. I don’t think I’m likely to miss BM3 any time soon.

I made a proper video to hopefully explain it better:

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So I’ve searched through the thread and I think I know the answer * but would love some collective advice.

I’m thinking of getting a Moog Subharmonicon and I would like to connect it to my iPad Pro (USB-C model), to add reverb/delay and record the resulting audio.

What is the most minimal setup to make this possible? The less wires, boxes and dongles the better. And does the answer change if I also want to send midi from iPad to Moog?

*Zoom U24?

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You might want to look at the MOTU M-2 or M-4

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The U24 is what I have so I can vouch for that one. The nice thing about it that I discovered recently was that I can setup external effects sends in AUM and, because it has 2 pairs of outs rather than just 2-in/2-out, I can still output in stereo.

The M2/4 looks great. I recently got a new desktop audio interface and it was between the M4 and the one I ultimately did get, the SSL 2+.

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I just spent an hour with apeSoft’s Electric Vintage and it’s wonderful!

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